psychophobia* podcast

Episode 05: Fierce Compassion - Mystification, and the Living Lineage of R.D. Laing

psychophobia* podcast '“Ultimately, we have just one moral duty: to reclaim large areas of peace in ourselves." — Etty Hillesum — — In a Rome Bookstore, Nita stumbled on R.D. Laing’s The Divided Self in her early twenties. She never quite recovered. What followed wasn’t a career path - it was a calling. Drawn to London in the early 1970s, Nita Gage entered the orbit of Laing’s radical communities, living inside households where people emerging from psychiatric institutions were met not with control, but with curiosity and compassion. Those years dismantled everything she thought she knew about healing, sanity, and what it means to truly be with another person. Fifty years later, Nita and Dr. Montgomery move through breathwork, altered states, and the imaginal journey - into the harder territory of microaggressions, self-righteousness, forgiveness, acceptance, and why detoxing off a substance puts you at Ground Zero with your pain staring back at you. At the center of it all is a single, quietly radical idea: the healer was never the therapist. It was always you. "If you do this well, your students will leave you, do much better than you in the world, and forget they ever learned any of it from you. That's the sign." — Nita Gage — — Follow us on psychophobia.com [https://psychophobia.com] — Substack [https://psychophobia.substack.com/] — LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/drmontgomery23/] — @psychophobia_project [https://instagram.com/psychophobia_project] — Youtube [https://www.youtube.com/@psychophobia_project] Follow Nita Soul Whispering by Nita Gage [https://www.amazon.com/Soul-Whispering-Awakening-Shamanic-Consciousness/dp/1591432251] — Nita at Hoffman Institute [nita@hoffmaninstitute.org] Send us a message: https://www.speakpipe.com/psychophobia — — Nita Gage is a psychospiritual teacher, retreat leader, and author whose work integrates psychology, embodiment, and shamanic practice. She trained in psychoanalysis in London with R.D. Laing and colleagues at the Philadelphia Association during the 1970s, an experience that profoundly shaped her understanding of consciousness and healing. Over the past four decades, Gage has worked in clinical settings, addiction treatment, and transformational retreat work. She is the author of Soul Whispering: The Art of Awakening Shamanic Consciousness and continues to lead workshops and retreats focused on personal transformation and expanded awareness. Dr. Michael R. Montgomery Dr. Montgomery is an existential psychoanalyst with international expertise in complex trauma, extreme states, addiction, and conflict resolution. He trained at Regent’s University London, the Tavistock and Portman, and the Anna Freud Centre. He is the founder of Logic23.com [https://logic23.com] and Peacefire.us [https://peacefire.us], and his clinical work is primarily community-based, focusing on patients typically excluded from quality care. A regular contributor to the Society for Existential Analysis, the R.D. Laing Symposium, and ISPS-US, he has over 30 published peer-reviewed works and is currently developing a new book alongside this podcast. — — 0:00:00 – The Book That Changed Nita’s Life 0:02:30 – Entering R.D. Laing’s World 0:07:30 – India, Mysticism & Disillusionment 0:15:50 – The R.D. Laing Symposium 0:22:00 – Breathwork Explained 0:34:45 – Micro-Harm & Radical Self-Reflection 0:49:10 – Conflict, Fear & Human Needs 1:06:50 – Acceptance vs Forgiveness 1:23:00 – Addiction & Trauma 1:40:30 – Hoffman Process & Self-Compassion — — Please note that while I am a therapist, I am not your therapist. This podcast explores mental health and the human experience, but it is not a substitute for therapy, medical care, or professional advice. Any decisions regarding your mental health, including changes to medication or treatment, should be made in consultation with a qualified healthcare professional you trust. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit psychophobia.substack.com [https://psychophobia.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1]

Episode 04: Alcohol and Agency - The Question of Informed Choice

psychophobia* podcast “The chains of habit are too weak to be felt until they are too strong to be broken.”— Samuel Johnson — — Alcohol is one of the most culturally protected forms of psychological escape - normalized, celebrated, and rarely examined with the seriousness it demands. Beneath its social acceptability lies something more unsettling: a substance that numbs not only pain, but possibility. Michael sits down with Gary Allen, nearly eight years alcohol-free, to explore what happens when someone steps outside drinking culture entirely. Together they examine the mythology surrounding alcohol, the quiet ways it becomes a solution to existential discomfort, and how removing it often reveals deeper psychological terrain beneath. Moving beyond addiction narratives, the conversation turns toward informed choice, cultural conditioning, and the illusion that alcohol helps us face life when it may actually help us avoid it. If alcohol numbs across the board - dulling anxiety, but also clarity - what happens when the numbing stops, and you’re left with yourself? “If people are liberated to see that they have agency and they have choice, they are empowered and potentially self-liberated.” — Dr. Micharl R — — Follow us on psychophobia.com [https://psychophobia.com] | Substack [https://psychophobia.substack.com/] | LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/drmontgomery23/] | @psychophobia_project [https://instagram.com/psychophobia_project] Follow Gary garyallen.ie [http://garyallen.ie] | Gary Allen on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/coachgaryallen/] Send us a message: https://www.speakpipe.com/psychophobia [https://www.speakpipe.com/psychophobia] — — Gary Allen, PCC is an alcohol-free coach, group facilitator, and advocate for a more conscious relationship with substances. After stepping away from alcohol nearly eight years ago, he experienced profound shifts across his emotional, physical, and professional life, ultimately transitioning from a 30-year career in IT into coaching and human development work. Today, Gary helps individuals examine their relationship with alcohol, explore ambivalence without shame, and reclaim agency in a culture where drinking is often treated as the default, emphasizing informed choice, curiosity, and sustainable change over rigid labels or all-or-nothing frameworks. Dr. Michael R. Montgomery Dr. Montgomery is an existential psychoanalyst with international expertise in complex trauma, extreme states, addiction, and conflict resolution. He trained at Regent’s University London, the Tavistock and Portman, and the Anna Freud Centre. He is the founder of Logic23.com [https://logic23.com] and Peacefire.us [https://peacefire.us], and his clinical work is primarily community-based, focusing on patients typically excluded from quality care. A regular contributor to the Society for Existential Analysis, the R.D. Laing Symposium, and ISPS-US, he has over 30 published peer-reviewed works and is currently developing a new book alongside this podcast. — — Episode Chapters 00:05 — Intro to Psychophobia & Meeting Gary Allen02:50 — Eight Years Alcohol-Free & Life Transformation06:39 — One Day at a Time & Building New Habits09:56 — Reframing Sobriety & Drinking Culture17:39 — Alcohol, Numbing & Underlying Mental Health22:24 — Gary’s Story: Disability, IT Career & Coaching38:27 — Agency, Relapse & Curiosity Over Shame49:58 — The Cost of Drinking vs. The Cost of Not Drinking53:29 — Alcohol, Habit & Informed Choice1:19:54 — How to Start & Where to Get Help — — Please note that while I am a therapist, I am not your therapist. This podcast explores mental health and the human experience, but it is not a substitute for therapy, medical care, or professional advice. Any decisions regarding your mental health, including changes to medication or treatment, should be made in consultation with a qualified healthcare professional you trust. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit psychophobia.substack.com [https://psychophobia.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1]

Episode 03: Psychedelic Narcissists - Why taking a chainsaw to the psyche requires more than good intentions

psychophobia* podcast “You are an explorer, and you represent our species, and the greatest good you can do is to bring back a new idea, because our world is endangered by the absence of good ideas. Our world is in crisis because of the absence of consciousness.”― Terence McKenna — The psychedelic renaissance is being sold as a revolution in healing- but beneath the hype lies something far messier. Michael sits down with Noah Cebuliak to explore the promise, peril, and commercialization of psychedelic therapy, from ketamine telehealth to integration, trauma, narcissism, and the dangerous fantasy of a shortcut to transformation. Together they ask what it actually means to prepare for an altered state, why some people come back more inflated rather than more whole, and what happens when capitalism collides with the sacred. At the heart of the conversation is a deeper challenge: if these substances amplify what is already present, then what exactly are we bringing to them- and what are they bringing out of us? What if the problem isn’t psychedelics— but the culture using them? — — Follow us on psychophobia.com [https://psychophobia.com] | Substack [https://psychophobia.substack.com/] | LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/drmontgomery23/] | @psychophobia_project [https://instagram.com/psychophobia_project] Follow Noah Noah’s Website [https://www.noahcebuliak.com] | Noah Cebuliak on Linkedin [https://www.linkedin.com/in/noah-cebuliak-5b48b5201/] Send us a message: https://www.speakpipe.com/psychophobia — — Noah Cebuliak is a coach, educator, and former psychedelic therapy practitioner specializing in integration, inner work, and transformational experiences. He previously worked as a guide in ketamine-assisted therapy programs, supporting hundreds of individuals through altered-state experiences and their psychological integration.Today, Noah works independently with clients on personal development, psychedelic integration, and nervous system awareness. Alongside his coaching work, he is also a music producer and collaborator on transformational music projects designed to support meditation, breathwork, and psychedelic-informed therapeutic settings. Dr. Michael R. Montgomery Dr. Montgomery is an existential psychoanalyst with international expertise in complex trauma, extreme states, addiction, and conflict resolution. He trained at Regent’s University London, the Tavistock and Portman, and the Anna Freud Centre. He is the founder of Logic23.com [https://logic23.com] and Peacefire.us [https://peacefire.us], and his clinical work is primarily community-based, focusing on patients typically excluded from quality care. A regular contributor to the Society for Existential Analysis, the R.D. Laing Symposium, and ISPS-US, he has over 30 published peer-reviewed works and is currently developing a new book alongside this podcast. — — Episode Chapters 00:05— Intro to Psychophobia & Reconnecting with Noah03:21 — Noah’s New Path: Coaching, Independence & Transformational Music04:55 — The New Psychedelic Wave: Hype, Harm & Commercialization12:30— Allostatic Load, Respect for Medicines & Somatic Stress16:54 — What Is Integration? Bridging Trip Worlds into Daily Life23:00— Psychedelic Narcissism, Set & Setting & Container Design43:18 — Foundations: Meditation, Nervous System & Walking the Razor’s Edge1:03:02 — The Industry: Roots to Thrive vs. McDonaldized Ketamine1:24:11 — Breathwork as a Safer Doorway & Group Healing1:33:32 — Music as Medicine & Practical Music Tips for Sessions Please note that while I am a therapist, I am not your therapist. This podcast explores mental health and the human experience, but it is not a substitute for therapy, medical care, or professional advice. Any decisions regarding your mental health, including changes to medication or treatment, should be made in consultation with a qualified healthcare professional you trust. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit psychophobia.substack.com [https://psychophobia.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1]

Episode 02: When the World Goes Quiet - Invisible Disabilities, Radical Sensitivity, and the Healing Power of Silence

psychophobia* podcast “All of humanity’s problems stem from man’s inability to sit quietly in a room alone.” — Blaise Pascal — — Inside one of the quietest rooms on earth, the usual assumptions about the mind begin to break down. The anechoic chamber at Orfield Laboratories was originally built for acoustic research, but it has become something else entirely - a place where people encounter their own perception in ways they rarely have before. In this conversation, Emma Orfield, Director of Therapeutics at Orfield Laboratories, explores how extreme silence can reveal hidden dimensions of sensory experience. We discuss invisible disabilities, sensory sensitivity, autism, PTSD, and the possibility that what psychiatry often labels as a disorder may sometimes be a response to a world that has become overwhelmingly loud. “All you’re left with is you.” — Emma Orfield — — Relevant Links Follow us on psychophobia.com [https://psychophobia.com] | Substack [https://psychophobia.substack.com/] | LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/drmontgomery23/] | Instagram [https://instagram.com/psychophobia_project] | Youtube [https://www.youtube.com/@psychophobia_project] Follow Emma Orfield Labs [https://www.orfieldlabs.com] Send us a message: https://www.speakpipe.com/psychophobia — — Emma Orfield-Johnston is a researcher and executive at Orfield Laboratories, a multi-sensory design and research firm focused on human perception. Her work explores how environments, sound, light, temperature, and other sensory factors shape human experience and well-being. Emma leads the lab’s therapeutics program, researching the psychological effects of extreme silence using the facility’s renowned anechoic chamber, often described as the quietest place on Earth. Her work focuses particularly on sensory sensitivity and invisible disabilities, including autism, PTSD, and other perceptual differences. Dr. Michael R. Montgomery is an existential psychoanalyst whose work explores the far edges of human experience, including complex trauma, extreme states, addiction, and the psychological aftermath of conflict. Trained at Regent’s University London, the Tavistock and Portman, and the Anna Freud Centre, his clinical work focuses primarily on community-based care for individuals often excluded from traditional mental health systems. He is faculty, and a supervising analyst at the New School for Existential Psychoanalysis, CA. He is the founder of Logic23.com [http://logic23.com] and Peacefire.us [http://peacefire.us] and a regular contributor to the Society for Existential Analysis, the R.D. Laing Symposium, and ISPS-US. He has published more than 30 peer-reviewed works and is currently developing a new book alongside the psychophobia* podcast. — — Episode Chapters 0:00:05 – Introduction: Psychophobia and the Anechoic Challenge 0:00:37 – Setting the Scene at Orfield Labs 0:02:00 – What Is Orfield Labs? Multisensory Design & Human Perception 0:02:20 – Inside the Anechoic Chamber – From Product Testing to People 0:04:27 – Invisible Disabilities, Sensitivity, and Self-Selection 0:07:02 – Debunking the “You’ll Go Crazy” Myth 0:10:58 – First-Time Reactions & “Doing More by Taking Away” 0:14:27 – Perceptual Silence and Autism-/PTSD-Informed Design 0:19:25 – Measuring the Unconscious & the Harley-Davidson Case Study 0:43:53 – Intuition, Embodiment, and the Body Teaching the Mind This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit psychophobia.substack.com [https://psychophobia.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1]

Episode 0: Psychophobia* Teaser

What if the institutions designed to help us understand the human psyche are actually afraid of them? Hosted by Dr. Michael R. Montgomery, this podcast explores the uncomfortable questions. Together, we’ll examine how the mental health systems meant to heal us instead perpetuate cycles of dependency. Welcome to the Psychophobia* Podcast. — Follow us on* psychophobia.com [https://psychophobia.com] — Substack [https://psychophobia.substack.com/] — LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/drmontgomery23/] — @psychophobia_project [https://instagram.com/psychophobia_project] — Youtube [https://www.youtube.com/@psychophobia_project] — Dr. Michael R. Montgomery is an existential psychoanalyst whose work explores the far edges of human experience- including complex trauma, extreme states, addiction, and the psychological aftermath of conflict. Trained at Regent’s University London, the Tavistock and Portman, and the Anna Freud Centre, his clinical work focuses primarily on community-based care for individuals often excluded from traditional mental health systems. He is the founder of Logic23.com [http://logic23.com] and Peacefire.us [http://peacefire.us] and a regular contributor to the Society for Existential Analysis, the R.D. Laing Symposium, and ISPS-US. He has published more than 30 peer-reviewed works and is currently developing a new book alongside the Psychophobia podcast. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit psychophobia.substack.com [https://psychophobia.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1]