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Real Estate for Breakfast

Podcast by McGuireWoods

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About Real Estate for Breakfast

“Real Estate for Breakfast” is a Chicago-centric commercial real estate podcast presented by McGuireWoods. Hosted by Phil Coover, a partner at McGuireWoods, the podcast features conversations with industry leaders including developers, property management professionals, brokers, attorneys, investors, visionaries, tenants, tenant representatives, and business owners. The show delivers thoughtful commentary on current real estate issues, explanations of sophisticated real estate challenges, and insights on emerging trends—all at the intersection of real estate business and law. Phil leverages his experience as both a licensed attorney and real estate managing broker in Illinois to translate complex issues into engaging discussions about real estate, business, and life. McGuireWoods is a full-service firm providing legal and public affairs solutions to corporate, individual, and nonprofit clients worldwide for more than 200 years collectively. Our commitment to excellence in everything we do gives our clients a competitive edge in everything they do. Our law firm, over its 186-year history, has earned the loyalty of our many long-standing clients with a deep understanding of their businesses, and broad skills in corporate transactions, high-stakes disputes, and complex regulatory and compliance matters. To learn more about our discussions, please email host Phillip Coover at pcoover@mcguirewoods.com or visit our website at mcguirewoods.com. This podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

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93 episodes

episode The Data Center Revolution, with Greg Riegle and Chris Lloyd artwork

The Data Center Revolution, with Greg Riegle and Chris Lloyd

Everyone is talking about Data Centers. Recently, host Phil Coover [https://www.mcguirewoods.com/people/c/phillip-n-coover/] mentioned that he was doing a podcast about data centers. “Do you think that this data center thing is a big bubble?” someone asked. “No,” he replied. “That implies that the demand will somehow go away, causing it to pop. This demand isn’t going away.” In order to break down what is really happening in Data Centers, Phil invited two McGuireWoods [https://www.mcguirewoods.com/]’ colleagues with decades of experience in data center real estate, incentives, and government affairs: Greg Riegle [https://www.mcguirewoods.com/people/r/gregory-a-riegle/], co-leader of the Real Estate Transactions Group and head of its data center practice, and https://www.mcguirewoods.com/Chris Lloyd [https://mwcllc.com/people/chris-lloyd-economic-development-consultant/], senior vice president and director of Infrastructure and Economic Development at McGuireWoods Consulting. “I don't know that there's been a more – pick your adjective – ‘interesting,’ ‘dynamic,’ or ‘challenging’ time with respect to the data center industry,” Greg says. Tune in for the panelists’ insights about the data center epicenter in Virginia, factors that a community must take into account when inviting a data center (like water consumption), and communities that are navigating the opportunity, like DeKalb, Illinois. CONNECT AND LEARN MORE ☑️ Greg Riegle [https://www.mcguirewoods.com/people/r/gregory-a-riegle/] | LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregory-riegle-6606201b] ☑️ Chris Lloyd [https://mwcllc.com/people/chris-lloyd-economic-development-consultant/] | LinkedIn [https://linkedin.com/in/chris-lloyd-4740168] ☑️ Phil Coover [https://www.mcguirewoods.com/people/c/phillip-n-coover/] | LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/phillip-coover-809105b/] ☑️ McGuireWoods [https://www.mcguirewoods.com/] | LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/company/mcguirewoods/] | Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/mcguirewoods] | Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/mcguirewoods_llp/] | X [https://twitter.com/McGuireWoodsLLP] ☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/real-estate-for-breakfast/id1191604057] | Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/4HWcp7lDIBQ3GvIlFJqaTS] This podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

15 May 2026 - 41 min
episode When Great Minds and Believers Collaborate: Chicago’s Metropolis Pointe, with JC Griffin and Jim Rylowicz artwork

When Great Minds and Believers Collaborate: Chicago’s Metropolis Pointe, with JC Griffin and Jim Rylowicz

An innovative mixed-use development in Chicago’s Bronzeville neighborhood is being led by a collaboration of “great minds” and a “family that believes in a greater Chicago.” That’s how JC Griffin [https://www.griffinventuregroup.com/leadership] explains Metropolis Pointe. The family that believes is his family-governed Griffin Venture Group [https://www.griffinventuregroup.com/]. The great minds include Jim Rylowicz, VP and general manager at CenTrio [https://www.centrioenergy.com/], a provider of sustainable energy solutions. Host Phil Coover [https://www.mcguirewoods.com/people/c/phillip-n-coover/] invites them both to discuss the project in this episode. JC describes Metropolis Pointe as a sustainable project that the community, environment, and Earth can be “happy about for generations.” Jim recalls listening to JC’s pitch and realizing that Metropolis Pointe aligns with how CenTrio thinks about energy. “And given that alignment, it was a no-brainer to keep the conversation going.” Tune in to this conversation to hear why Axios selected Metropolis Pointe one of Chicago’s top projects for 2026. CONNECT AND LEARN MORE ☑️ Jim Rylowicz | LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-rylowicz] ☑️ CenTrio [https://www.centrioenergy.com/] | LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/company/centrio-energy] ☑️ JC Griffin [https://www.griffinventuregroup.com/leadership] | LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuagriffinc] ☑️ Griffin Venture Group [https://www.griffinventuregroup.com/] | LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/company/griffin-venture-group/] | Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/griffinventuregroup?igsh=MTJ4bnJsbnp6cTFraQ==] ☑️ Phil Coover [https://www.mcguirewoods.com/people/c/phillip-n-coover/] | LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/phillip-coover-809105b/] ☑️ McGuireWoods [https://www.mcguirewoods.com/] | LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/company/mcguirewoods/] | Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/mcguirewoods] | Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/mcguirewoods_llp/] | X [https://twitter.com/McGuireWoodsLLP] ☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/ph/podcast/the-corner-series/id1597490984] | Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/62wDhXTw09oQ6dGDfbJFiI] | Amazon Music [https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/4a022fe7-eb43-446a-b130-a33e5e23ef0b/the-corner-series] This podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

18 Feb 2026 - 43 min
episode Guiding Office Tenants in Today’s Challenging Market, with Melissa Copley artwork

Guiding Office Tenants in Today’s Challenging Market, with Melissa Copley

Drawing on extensive experience navigating major shifts in the commercial real estate market, Melissa Copley [https://insights.mcguirewoods.net/email_handler.aspx?sid=blankform&redirect=https%3a%2f%2fwww.nmrk.com%2fpeople%2fmelissa-copley&checksum=96BCC72C] reflects on her practice with McGuireWoods partner and host Phil Coover [https://insights.mcguirewoods.net/email_handler.aspx?sid=blankform&redirect=https%3a%2f%2fwww.mcguirewoods.com%2fpeople%2fc%2fphillip-n-coover%2f&checksum=4604F59B]. Now vice chairman at Newmark [https://www.nmrk.com/] in Chicago, where she represents large tenants of office space in major metropolitan areas, Melissa highlights the impact of today’s economic and geopolitical conditions. As tenants consider issues of economic uncertainty and occupancy, they tend to put off decision-making. “I always like to have my clients start early, especially now. It is a shrinking pool of good alternatives,” she says. Tune in for other insights, including why AI can’t replace strategic brain power, what happens when premier space goes vacant, and what strong tenants are looking for in amenities. Spoiler: It’s beyond just a fitness center.  CONNECT AND LEARN MORE ☑️ Melissa Copley [https://www.nmrk.com/people/melissa-copley] | LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/melissa-copley] ☑️ Newmark [https://www.nmrk.com/] | LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/company/nmrk-cre] | Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/newmark/] | Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/nmrk.cre] | X [https://x.com/Newmark] ☑️ Phil Coover [https://www.mcguirewoods.com/people/c/phillip-n-coover/] | LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/phillip-coover-809105b/] ☑️ McGuireWoods [https://www.mcguirewoods.com/] | LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/company/mcguirewoods/] | Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/mcguirewoods] | Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/mcguirewoods_llp/] | X [https://twitter.com/McGuireWoodsLLP] ☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/ph/podcast/the-corner-series/id1597490984] | Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/62wDhXTw09oQ6dGDfbJFiI] | Amazon Music [https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/4a022fe7-eb43-446a-b130-a33e5e23ef0b/the-corner-series] This podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

22 Dec 2025 - 40 min
episode When You Construct Buildings and Build Relationships, with John Slaten artwork

When You Construct Buildings and Build Relationships, with John Slaten

Slaten Construction [https://slatenconstruction.com/] is a “service company for building relationships,” explains founder and CEO John Slaten [https://slatenconstruction.com/leadership/]. And because building relationships is a core value, the company enjoys repeat business from customers with projects ranging from a $400 million data center to a $50,000 office remodel. In this conversation with host Phil Coover [https://www.mcguirewoods.com/people/c/phillip-n-coover/], John describes his journey, from launching the firm by himself in 2017 to growing it over the years. Tune in for his insights about weathering construction trends, hiring people who fit the company culture, and doing “whatever it takes” to ensure the firm succeeds – for his customers and his staff. Connect and Learn More ☑️ John Slaten [https://slatenconstruction.com/leadership/] | LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-slaten-b08bb4165] ☑️ Slaten Construction [https://slatenconstruction.com/] | LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/company/slaten-construction-inc/] | Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/pg/slatenconstruction] ☑️ Phil Coover [https://www.mcguirewoods.com/people/c/phillip-n-coover/] | LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/phillip-coover-809105b/] ☑️ McGuireWoods [https://www.mcguirewoods.com/] | LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/company/mcguirewoods/] | Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/mcguirewoods] | Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/mcguirewoods_llp/] | X [https://twitter.com/McGuireWoodsLLP] ☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/ph/podcast/the-corner-series/id1597490984] | Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/62wDhXTw09oQ6dGDfbJFiI] | Amazon Music [https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/4a022fe7-eb43-446a-b130-a33e5e23ef0b/the-corner-series] This podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

4 Nov 2025 - 36 min
episode From Single-Family Homes to 200-Unit High-Rise, with Tony Andrews and Dimitri Nassis artwork

From Single-Family Homes to 200-Unit High-Rise, with Tony Andrews and Dimitri Nassis

Tandem [https://tandeminc.net/] has built an impressive portfolio scaling from single-family homes to a 200-unit high-rise in Chicago's competitive market. To explain why Crain’s took notice with a recent article about the firm, co-founders Tony Andrews [https://tandeminc.net/teams/tony-andrews/] and Dimitri Nassis [https://tandeminc.net/teams/dimitri-nassis/] share their remarkable journey with host Phil Coover [https://www.mcguirewoods.com/people/c/phillip-n-coover/]. After reconnecting in an airport, the childhood friends partnered on their first profitable single-family project. “It was just very simple for me,” Tony recalls. “The accounting was simple. It's pluses and minuses and a little bit of division.” The duo expanded into multifamily developments, weathering the recession of ‘08 and Covid shut-downs. Tune in for their insights about vertical integration in development, the hidden profit strategies some general contractors use, and prioritizing transparency over traditional bidding battles.  CONNECT AND LEARN MORE ☑️ Dimitri Nassis [https://tandeminc.net/teams/dimitri-nassis/] | LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/dimitrinassis] ☑️ Tony Andrews [https://tandeminc.net/teams/tony-andrews/] | LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/tony-andrews-aa1063b] ☑️ Tandem [https://tandeminc.net/] | LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/company/tandem-architecture-&-construction?trk=company_logo] | Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/tandemac] | YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/user/TandemInc] ☑️ Phil Coover [https://www.mcguirewoods.com/people/c/phillip-n-coover/] | LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/phillip-coover-809105b/] ☑️ McGuireWoods [https://www.mcguirewoods.com/] | LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/company/mcguirewoods/] | Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/mcguirewoods] | Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/mcguirewoods_llp/] | X [https://twitter.com/McGuireWoodsLLP] ☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/ph/podcast/the-corner-series/id1597490984] | Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/62wDhXTw09oQ6dGDfbJFiI] | Amazon Music [https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/4a022fe7-eb43-446a-b130-a33e5e23ef0b/the-corner-series] This podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

20 Aug 2025 - 44 min
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