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Recto/Verso: Conversations Beyond Art

Podcast by Liz Asch

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About Recto/Verso: Conversations Beyond Art

Welcome to the Recto/Verso podcast where artists come together to talk about the unsaid and  overlooked aspects of making art and crafting a life. We can think of the Recto as the aspect of artmaking that gets shared with the public, the finished product, and we can think of the Verso as all the other work that goes into it, including the shadow sides, the struggles, the personal journey and discoveries.   Join me, your host Liz Asch, author of Your Salt on My Lips and creator and host of the meditation podcast, Body Land Metaphor Medicine, where you can find over fifty guided visualizations designed to help you feel more grounded, soothed, and settled in your nervous system. Body Land Metaphor Medicine is in English and Spanish.   Here on Recto/Verso: Conversations Beyond Art, I welcome a new guest artist each episode and we talk. Together we get real about what current projects and passions are lighting them up with discoveries and reveals on how we navigate life as working artists in today’s world.

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episode Lidia Yuknavitch, Author of Chronology of Water, on her book and the new film adaptation by Kristen Stewart artwork

Lidia Yuknavitch, Author of Chronology of Water, on her book and the new film adaptation by Kristen Stewart

Join me, your host Liz Asch, as I talk with Lidia Yuknavitch about her experience sharing her book, The Chronology of Water, with the world, and how it’s been for her seeing her memoir transformed into a film, starring Imogen Poots, directed by Kristen Stewart. Lidia is the fairy godmother to a myriad of writers here in Portland, Oregon, and all over the country and the world. She is brilliant and humble and funny and clever and, in this episode, you get to hear her thoughts, feelings, and impressions of this wild process, which we discuss as a form of ekphrasis. If you haven’t listened to my previous interview with Lidia (Recto/Verso episode 3), you might want to play that one first. Thank you so much for joining me, Lidia Yuknavitch, and to those of you listening as well.

17 Feb 2026 - 1 h 14 min
episode Episode 3: Lidia Yuknavitch on Reading the Waves and Riding the Currents: A Recto/Verso Artist Interview with Liz Asch artwork

Episode 3: Lidia Yuknavitch on Reading the Waves and Riding the Currents: A Recto/Verso Artist Interview with Liz Asch

Lidia Yuknavitch is the author of 12 books including The Chronology of Water, Reading the Waves, which is her latest book, the Misfits Manifesto, Thrust, Verge, The Small Backs of Children, Joan of Dirt, and Dora: A Headcase. Lidia is the founder of Portland’s cherished school of Corporeal Writing. She has decades of experience teaching, has won awards up the wazoo, and is one of the most beloved members of the literary community where we live here in Portland, Oregon, and her reach extends so far, into the hearts of countless readers, friends, and admirers. Lidia is outrageously talented, perceptive and thoughtful, and she is also one of the most generous people I’ve ever known. I consider myself extremely lucky to walk on this planet at the same time as Lidia Yuknavitch and am so grateful to call her a dear friend. Lidia Yuknavitch on Reading the Waves and Riding Some Currents Liz Asch

9 Sep 2025 - 1 h 19 min
episode Episode 2: Jon Raymond on God and Sex: A Recto/Verso Artist Interview with Liz Asch artwork

Episode 2: Jon Raymond on God and Sex: A Recto/Verso Artist Interview with Liz Asch

Jon Raymond is a novelist, screen writer, and art critic, author of the novels Denial, Freebird, The Half-Life, and Rain Dragon – and one of my favorite short story collections, Livability (which one a Ken Kesey award). Jon wrote the screenplays for Showing Up, Old Joy [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Joy], Wendy and Lucy [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendy_and_Lucy], Meek's Cutoff [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meek%27s_Cutoff_(film)], Night Moves [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_Moves_(2013_film)], and First Cow [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Cow], with Kelly Reichardt [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly_Reichardt], who directed the films. He was nominated for a Primetime Emmy [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primetime_Emmy] for his work on the HBO [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HBO] miniseries, Mildred Pierce [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mildred_Pierce_(miniseries)], which he co-wrote with director Todd Haynes, and we are here today to talk about his latest novel, God and Sex, which comes out this August.   Over the years, Jon and I have crossed paths in Portland as both writers and parents. I always enjoy our conversations and I’m thrilled to welcome him as a guest to the podcast. We are here today in my living room to talk about the process of writing God and Sex, the deep-rooted questions the novel raises, and how to make a meaningful life amidst the challenges and gifts of being an artist in today’s world.   I try to steer away from spoilers, as we talk about this exciting novel which takes place in Ashland, Oregon, amidst personal crises and natural disasters. We follow a cast of three characters, who each have a different relationship to the two themes named in the title: God and Sex, as they endure life changes, betrayals, and tragedy. Thanks to Ezra Greenhill for our theme song and to Alix Grande for production support. Jon Raymond on God and Sex: A Recto/Verso Artist Interview with Liz Asch Liz Asch

2 Sep 2025 - 50 min
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