Retirement Unscripted, with Joe, John, and Jeff

Bob Friedman

In this episode of Retirement Unscripted, we talk with retired hospice physician Bob Friedman about how years spent caring for patients at the end of life shaped his perspective on retirement, purpose, forgiveness, and living with fewer regrets. Bob shares how nurturing his lifelong passion for music helped him transition smoothly into retirement, turning songwriting, recording, and teaching his grandchildren into a deeply fulfilling new chapter centered on creativity, family, and legacy. Retirement Unscripted is about the period of life where you can reinvent your life in any way you want. It aims to redefine the concept of retirement by uncovering ways in which people spend this time and use it to create incredible new opportunities. Join Joe Fusco, Jeff Cornwall, John Fassnacht, and guests as they explore they're journeys into life after their careers.

David Sunderland

In this episode of Retirement Unscripted, the hosts welcome guest David Sunderland, who is approaching retirement with clarity and enthusiasm, sharing how a simple, unscheduled vacation moment sparked his desire to embrace that next phase of life. The conversation explores common retirement challenges—financial readiness, family uncertainty, and identity—while emphasizing that true “freedom” often still includes structure, but one that is self-directed and purpose-driven. Ultimately, the group concludes that retirement is less about having a perfect plan and more about staying open, finding meaningful ways to contribute, and allowing purpose and structure to evolve naturally over time. Retirement Unscripted is about the period of life where you can reinvent your life in any way you want. It aims to redefine the concept of retirement by uncovering ways in which people spend this time and use it to create incredible new opportunities. Join Joe Fusco, Jeff Cornwall, John Fassnacht, and guests as they explore they're journeys into life after their careers.

Maggie Kuyper

In this episode of Retirement Unscripted, the hosts welcome entrepreneur Maggie Kuyper for a cross-generational conversation about redefining retirement as freedom of time, identity, and purpose rather than a fixed age or finish line. Together they explore financial anxiety, comparison culture, entrepreneurship, and the evolving meaning of work, play, and legacy in a noisy modern world. Retirement Unscripted is about the period of life where you can reinvent your life in any way you want. It aims to redefine the concept of retirement by uncovering ways in which people spend this time and use it to create incredible new opportunities. Join Joe Fusco, Jeff Cornwall, John Fassnacht, and guests as they explore they're journeys into life after their careers.

Clint Smith

This episode explores the universal question, “What’s next?” through a conversation with entrepreneur Clint Smith, who reflects on life after selling the software company he co-founded. Drawing parallels between exiting a business and retirement, the discussion examines identity, purpose, family, creativity, and the anxiety that can follow major life transitions. Clint shares how embracing learning, deepening relationships, and viewing this season as an “intermission” rather than an ending has reshaped his understanding of fulfillment and the possibility of multiple future acts. Retirement Unscripted is about the period of life where you can reinvent your life in any way you want. It aims to redefine the concept of retirement by uncovering ways in which people spend this time and use it to create incredible new opportunities. Join Joe Fusco, Jeff Cornwall, John Fassnacht, and guests as they explore they're journeys into life after their careers.

Jeff Pickering

In this episode, we talk with Jeff Pickering about his transition toward retirement, focusing on the emotional tipping points, identity shifts, and uncertainties that come with stepping away from a long career in sales. The conversation explores the importance of relationships, intentional friendships, spousal expectations, and embracing openness, learning, and flexibility rather than rigid plans in the next phase of life.