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Rewired | Katie Whitlock and Jeff Cook

Podcast by Jeff Cook | Katie Whitlock

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Going for depth in our discussion of the Enneagram

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Processing Centers | Eights

We’re back in —and diving deeper into Joey Stabile’s Working Together Doesn’t Work [https://a.co/d/08ejYaCE], focusing on the Processing Center and what it reveals about how different types move through the world. In this episode, we begin a discussion on Eights, Threes, and Ones—the “doing processors.” What does it mean to process through action? What gets gained—and what gets left behind—when execution becomes the primary lens for evaluating life? We explore Joey’s framework of support centers—how doing can be backed by thinking or feeling—and how that shapes the differences between types that, on the surface, look similar. Along the way, we unpack: 1. Why Eights often feel misunderstood—and what’s actually happening beneath their intensity 2. The tension between execution and emotion in doing types 3. How Threes, Eights, and Ones differ in their relationship to results, relationships, and responsibility 4. Whether the “ends justify the means”—and how each type defines both ends and means differently 5. The hidden cost of prioritizing action over reflection or connection This conversation slows down to wrestle with real language, real experience, and the deeper structure behind how we assess: Am I good in the world? We’ll pick up next time with Threes and Ones—but for now, we stay with the Eights, and what it means to move through life with force, clarity, and blind spots we don’t always see.

26 Mar 2026 - 1 h 0 min
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Processing Centers | An Introduction

In this episode, we dive into Joey Schewee’s new book "When Working together Doesn't Work" -- Which you can buy: HERE [https://a.co/d/0ddGqK8q]. We introduce a framework reshaping how we are understand the Enneagram. What begins as a familiar observation—types orienting around accomplishment, connection, or ease—becomes something far more grounded as we explore the underlying mechanism that produces these patterns. Rather than stopping at outcomes, Joey’s work traces how each type processes experience from the inside out, offering a clearer structure for why we assess our lives the way we do. This conversation moves beyond description into explanation, giving language and form to something many have sensed but not fully articulated.

26 Mar 2026 - 1 h 40 min
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On Enneagram Stereotypes | Part I

Access to all past Rewired Episodes at : www.aroundthecircle.org [https://www.aroundthecircle.org] In this crossover episode of Rewired x Early Access, Jeff sits down with Katie Whitlock to reflect on what has emerged after months of interviewing Enneagram voices under 35. What begins as a behind-the-scenes conversation quickly becomes a deeper examination of how listening—real listening—reshapes both teaching and understanding. Katie shares what surprised her most as an interviewer: that one-on-one conversations were easier than expected, that people speak about their inner worlds with remarkable clarity when given space, and that the Enneagram begins to change once you stop talking long enough to hear how others describe themselves. Along the way, she reflects on how this process forced her to confront her own habits as a Type Three, learning to step back, listen more carefully, and teach from lived patterns rather than rehearsed explanations. Together, Jeff and Katie explore how stereotypes begin to break down when you attend not just to behavior or stated motivation, but to patterns—how people speak, where their attention goes, and the inconsistencies between how they describe themselves and how they move through the world. They discuss why newer students often over-type too quickly, why mature learning leads to a season of “I don’t know,” and why that valley is not failure but growth.

18 Dec 2025 - 48 min
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