28. I'm still shit scared inside even after I wrote a book on confidence - Heidi Anderson
Content note: This episode talks openly about mental health struggle, hospital admissions, thoughts of wanting to disappear or escape, childhood and sexual abuse, and drinking. If any of that is close to home right now, be gentle with yourself. You don't have to listen alone, and you don't have to listen today.
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Heidi Anderson is my first ever guest on She's Honestly Mental. She nearly didn't come. I nearly didn't have her. We both sat down already half-crying, both going "I might cry today," and then we just did the thing anyway.
Heidi spent years on breakfast radio being the confident, outgoing girl. She wrote a book called Drunk on Confidence. She walks through shopping centres in her bra and undies because she reckons it shouldn't be a brave act to be seen in your own body. From the outside, she's the woman who has it all sorted.
And here's the thing she said that I can't stop thinking about. You can write the book on confidence, live it, breathe it every single day, and still spend your whole life looking outside your own body for proof that you're doing okay. Her coach said it to her straight: you nailed the mindset, you wrote the book, but the internal confidence, it's not 100 percent there.
Same, Heidi. Same.
We got into all of it. The flexible mindset versus the victim mentality. Parental burnout, and the shame that turns up when your kid is struggling and some part of you decides that makes you the bad one. Why she stopped posting her son online, and the conversation with a former child detective that cracked it open. Self-trust, and how bloody hard it is to ask your husband what he thinks instead of reaching for another parenting book. The thoughts that show up in the dark, the ones where you wonder if everyone would be better off if you just disappeared for a bit. Tax bills and ASIC strike notices and perimenopause and grief. The lot.
No tidy ending. No five steps. Two women on a couch being honest about being shit scared and showing up anyway.
A few things Heidi said that stuck:
"I'll just show up and try and do all these things, but I'm fucking shit scared inside."
"It shouldn't be a brave act to be seen in your most vulnerable, in your everyday, in your body."
"I'm constantly looking for confirmation outside of my body that I'm doing a good job, that I'm doing it right."
She also shared the thing that's been holding her lately. Hoʻoponopono, the Hawaiian forgiveness practice. Standing in front of the mirror saying "I love you, I forgive you" for a few minutes each morning. She picked it up from Davey Rowe, a Perth coach leaning on it through his own diagnosis. Not as a fix. Just a way back into your own body when everything's loud.
About Heidi: Author of Drunk on Confidence. Former breakfast radio host (Heidi, Will & Woody). Publicist. The kind of human who'll walk through a shopping centre in her undies so the rest of us feel a bit more allowed.https://www.heidileeanderson.com/
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Mentioned in this episode:Hoʻoponopono, the Hawaiian forgiveness practice (the "I love you, I forgive you" mirror one)Davey Rowe, Perth coachChristy McVee, former child detective, on kids and online safety (the "dinner table test")Drunk on Confidence by Heidi Anderson