EP.05 The Future of Guide Books, a Kaya Interview w/ Marc Bourguignon, Eric Jerome, Dave Gurman, and Matt De Santis

EP.06 The Athlete/Artist Dichotomy and Climbing Industry Doomerism w/ MVTANT and Luke Skinner

We’re back with a HEATER… in EP.06 @seaofczars welcomes the purveyor of electronic body horror himself @mvtant66 and buff bud @luksskinner to discuss the Venn diagram of post punk and climbing, stories from a lifetime of touring, and why it’s so tough to devote yourself to multiple passions. In hour two they delve into the rich history of climbing in Texas, rant about the current state of the gym and live music industries (NOT GOOD!), before sharing their favorite albums by bands with climbers as members… ⛓️ Long Live The New Flesh ⛓️

EP.05 The Future of Guide Books, a Kaya Interview w/ Marc Bourguignon, Eric Jerome, Dave Gurman, and Matt De Santis

OOPS, Sickos went and did a journalism ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  On EP.05 Max sits down with Kaya Co-founders Marc Bourguignon and Dave Gurman, along with Kaya’s head of marketing Eric Jerome for a wide ranging conversation about the company’s history, business model, learnings and missteps, and all things guide books, digital and print!  Stick around for the Matt De Santis cameo where we break down the economics of being a digital guide book author and explore the grey areas of copyright VS reference data… Circle the WAGONS, we’re fightin’ off pitchfork-armed troll mobs….

EP.04 My Own Private Idaho w/ Mike Bockino and Sam Enright

Did you miss us? In Episode 4 Max kicks it with Mike Bockino and Sam Enright to talk all things POTATO STATE. We try to get to the bottom of what kept Mike going to climb his hardest project after 46 days of effort at age 43, do our FOUR (or 3? But who’s counting) FAVORITE Idaho blocs, chat about Sam’s old show NO ROPE and how it feels to talk into the void, and what  Mike’s favorite Netflix show is to watch with floaties on in the hot tub…

Ep. 3 What's Wrong with Modern Route Setting w/ Nic O and Kyram Adsit

BUCKLE UP FOLKS, in episode 3 Max goes DEEP with Kyram Adsit and Nic Oklobzija for a THREE HOUR therapy session…In hours 1 and 2 with ~50 years of route setting experience between the guests, they discuss everything from where the gym industry’s at in 2025, to which celebrity setters Nic hates the most, to highlights and horror stories from World Cups and Nationals; things get LOOSE in hour 3 where Max and Kyram squash their Uintas FA beef, we debut the 8A local area LIGHTNING ROUND, and finally naming their US setter Mt Rushmore… DON’T FORGET TO HYDRATE

Ep 2. Climbing is for the Nerds (COMPLIMENTARY) w/ Brian Nugent and Hayden Miller

In episode 2, Max chats with longtime friends Brian Nugent and Hayden Miller about Brian's flash of SPECTRE, the science behind rock quality, a mathematician's perspective of the bouldering equation and the finite limit of hard bouldering, measuring building landings in beers, and highball first ascents. GET IN LOSERS, WE'RE GOING NERDING