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State of the Stack

Podcast by Sarthak Satapathy and Ritul Gaur

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Technology & science

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Called Talking Digital Public Infrastructure in the first season, this new rebranded podcast, now called State of the Stack dives deeper into the specifics of DPI design, deployment, implementation, policymaking, and regulatory frameworks. Ritul is our new co-host along with Sarthak, and the both of them plan to bring you exciting new episodes this season. This podcast explores the intersections of development, public technology, governance, and market innovation. We specifically discuss the Digital Public Infrastructure ecosystem, its possibilities, and concerns.

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11 episodes

episode S2E1: How Protean eGov Deploys DPI Pipelines artwork

S2E1: How Protean eGov Deploys DPI Pipelines

Welcome to a new season of the podcast! In our rebranded podcast we go into the specifics of DPI design, deployment, innovation, policymaking, and regulatory frameworks. In this episode we talk to Suresh Sethi, CEO of Protean eGov Technologies that is the deploying DPI across different layers and across India and Africa. We discussed Protean's approach to deploying DPI, their experiences in doing so thus far, and the challenges a systems integrator like Protean faces in this nascent DPI ecosystem. Our guest, Suresh is a seasoned financial services leader with over three decades of global experience driving transformation and innovation and is currently the Managing Director & CEO of Protean eGov Technologies Ltd. (formerly, NSDL eGovernance Infrastructure Ltd.). Previously, as Founder CEO & MD of India Post Payments Bank, Suresh pioneered a groundbreaking initiative, harnessing the power of 190,000 postal employees to deliver doorstep banking services to customers of any bank. With a distinguished career spanning Citigroup, YES Bank, and Vodafone M-Pesa across India, Kenya, UK, Argentina, and the US, Suresh has held senior CXO and Managing Director positions, driving business strategy, product innovation, and operational excellence. You can read more about Protean and Suresh below - Digital India: Aadhaar, DigiLocker, China & Business Opportunity [http://bit.ly/4p0JQ9q] Protean's Vision for AI Powered DPI Shaping Global Services [https://proteantech.in/articles/suresh-sethi-un-speech/] Bridging Digital Divide [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYNFVrJujuo] Credits Sound Engineer - Vijay Doiphode Intro/Outro Music - Manisha Upreti Hosts - Ritul Gaur and Sarthak Satapathy   Disclaimer The views expressed here belong solely to the hosts and the guests, and do not reflect the views of their employer or any other affiliated organization. Support the show [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2149093/support]

24 Sep 2025 - 1 h 1 min
episode S1E10: Institutions, Policy, and Administration for DPI artwork

S1E10: Institutions, Policy, and Administration for DPI

In this episode, Kamya Chandra, Surabhi Hodigere, and I have a conversation about public policy, institutions, administrations, and capacity building for a country's DPI landscape. We also discuss the need for institutionalizing knowledge and models about governance, and management of DPIs as a critical infrastructure for public administrators. Kamya is the Chief Strategy Officer at the global Centre for DPI which supports countries in their technical architecture. She is also an Advisor on DPI to India's Ministry of Finance and has played a key role in multiple DPI initiatives by GoI in the financial inclusion, consented data sharing, and eKYC spaces. She was also part of the founding team at the World Bank's ID4D Initiative. Surabhi is a Consultant at the Aapti Institute and is an active researcher and contributor to the governance of digital public goods and infrastructure. She has previously been a civic-tech entrepreneur founding Political Quotient and has been part of the prestigious LAMP Fellowship in India.  Support the show [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2149093/support]

16 Nov 2023 - 1 h 11 min
episode S1E9: Discussing Estonia's X-Road and the Nordic Institute of Interoperability Solutions with Ville Sirviö artwork

S1E9: Discussing Estonia's X-Road and the Nordic Institute of Interoperability Solutions with Ville Sirviö

In this episode, we discuss the role of the Nordic Institute of Interoperability Solutions (NIIS), and how it builds on Estonia's X-Road. Kate Wilson joins me in this episode to unpack data exchange, the key features and approach of X-Road, and NIIS's interesting governance model with Ville Sirviö. Ville Sirviö is the CEO of the Nordic Institute for Interoperability Solutions (NIIS), known for the X-Road® open-source software with hundreds of millions of end users worldwide. He is also a board member of the Gaia-X European Association for Data and Cloud.  Recommended resources for the episode 030I_Ville Sirviö, CEO of the Nordic Institute for Interoperability – What is the future for cities? podcast (wtf4cities.com) [https://wtf4cities.com/2022/09/09/030i_ville-sirvio-ceo-of-the-nordic-institute-for-interoperability/]  https://x-road.global/xroad-as-a-digital-public-good [https://x-road.global/xroad-as-a-digital-public-good] https://x-road.global/launching-citizenoriented-digital-services-in-colombia [https://x-road.global/launching-citizenoriented-digital-services-in-colombia] https://x-road.global/first-steps-towards-interoperability-in-the-public-sector-of-el-salvador [https://x-road.global/first-steps-towards-interoperability-in-the-public-sector-of-el-salvador]  https://x-road.global/integrity-and-interoperability-the-perfect-match-for-argentinas-public-service [https://x-road.global/integrity-and-interoperability-the-perfect-match-for-argentinas-public-service] https://x-road.global/scaling-interoperability-across-states-for-national-digital-transformation-in-brazil [https://x-road.global/scaling-interoperability-across-states-for-national-digital-transformation-in-brazil] https://www.niis.org/blog/2020/3/30/x-road-implementation-models [https://www.niis.org/blog/2020/3/30/x-road-implementation-models] https://www.niis.org/blog/2022/7/11/from-connectivity-between-databases-towards-an-ecosystem-of-ecosystems [https://www.niis.org/blog/2022/7/11/from-connectivity-between-databases-towards-an-ecosystem-of-ecosystems] Support the show [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2149093/support]

23 Oct 2023 - 56 min
episode S1E8: DPG Charter's Learnings with Chrissy Meier artwork

S1E8: DPG Charter's Learnings with Chrissy Meier

In the seventh episode of the Talking DPI podcast series, I talk to Chrissy Meier who led the Digital Public Goods Charter work. We discuss the learnings from the first year of consultations regarding the DPG Charter, the role DPGs play in the DPI ecosystem, and the future of the Charter.  Chrissy is the Director of Policy at the Digital Impact Alliance. She is a recognized thought leader in digital development, with over a decade of experience managing complex initiatives which deliver positive results for people with organizations including the World Bank (CGAP, ID4D and G2Px), the Swiss Capacity Building Facility (SCBF), GIZ, the Center for Financial Inclusion at Accion, USAID and many others. Chrissy’s writings on DPG Charter’s work -  5 Things We’ve Learned through the Digital Public Goods Charter [https://digitalpublicgoods.net/blog/5-things-weve-learned-through-the-digital-public-goods-charter/] The DPG Charter: Key takeaways on deploying digital public goods as infrastructure [https://digitalpublicgoods.net/blog/implementation-key-takeaways-on-deploying-digital-public-goods-as-infrastructure/] Co-Creating Our Digital Future: How Open-Source Technology Can Expand Inclusive Digital Public Infrastructure [https://dial.global/research/how-open-source-technology-expands-inclusive-digital-public-infrastructure/] Support the show [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2149093/support]

25 Aug 2023 - 40 min
episode S1E7: India's DPI in Education Journey with Shankar Maruwada artwork

S1E7: India's DPI in Education Journey with Shankar Maruwada

In the sixth episode of the Talking DPIs podcast series, I talk to Shankar Maruwada from Ekstep Foundation about India’s DPI journey in education (Digital Infrastructure for Knowledge Sharing - DIKSHA). We discuss the importance of people and institutions in any DPI journey, and how a combination of policy, technology, and +1 thinking came together in building DIKSHA.  This episode is special as my formative understanding of DPIs comes from my experiences implementing DIKSHA across India. Conversations with Shankar are always insightful, and I come out learning something new.   Shankar is the CEO of Ekstep Foundation, which addresses social problems at scale through societal platforms. He pioneered data analytics in India by co-founding Marketics and was also the Head of Demand Generation for India’s national identity program, Aadhar.  Shankar's writings on DPI - Fast-Tracking Development: A Building Blocks Approach for Digital Public Goods [https://www.cgdev.org/publication/fast-tracking-development-building-blocks-approach-digital-public-goods] Digital Public Goods for Education: The Indian Experience [https://carnegieindia.org/2023/03/27/digital-public-goods-for-education-indian-experience-pub-89341] From Seed to a Forest: The EkStep origin story [https://medium.com/@shankarmaruwada/from-seed-to-a-forest-the-ekstep-origin-story-9490d50d9207] Support the show [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2149093/support]

25 Jun 2023 - 47 min
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