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Subject Access

Podcast by Ben Martin

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Welcome to Subject Access, the show where we interview legal, compliance, and policy experts operating at the intersection of law, data protection, and AI.In each episode, we move beyond the theory to unpack how the ecosystem actually works. With the help of our guests, we look at what the rules are, how organisations are interpreting and implementing them, and what is coming next.What to expect...We skip the hype to have thoughtful conversations about the things that actually matter to practitioners. We'll map the direction of travel for data law, and focus on practical implementation. Whether looking at regulatory developments or internal operating models, our goal is to help you understand how rules truly impact product, governance, and strategy.About the Host:Your host is Ben Martin, Legal Engineer and Head of Privacy at Wordsmith AI. Ben has an in-house privacy background (Trustpilot, King, and OVO), trained at Osborne Clarke, and is the author of GDPR for Startups and Scaleups.His focus is on pragmatic, business-aligned delivery, looking at how work is done, not just the theory.Join us to share tested approaches, compare notes, and help set practical standards for the next wave of AI and data governance.

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episode EP4 - Why we shouldn't ban children from social media artwork

EP4 - Why we shouldn't ban children from social media

The conversation looks into the debate around children's use of technology, emphasizing the nuanced view on banning children from social media and the ineffectiveness of such a ban. It also highlights the importance of enforcement and regulation of existing laws, as well as the concerns and potential hypocrisy surrounding EdTech in schools. The discussion underscores the universal nature of online safety concerns and the need for designing technology with children in mind. The conversation delves into the pervasiveness of technology in schools, highlighting the impact on human interaction and the positive impact of social media and technology. It emphasizes the need for a nuanced approach to understanding the role of technology in education and the importance of digital literacy. Takeaways * Children's online safety is a universal concern * Enforcement and regulation of existing laws is crucial * Designing technology with children in mind is essential Pervasiveness of EdTech * Impact on Human Interaction Chapters * 00:00 Hypocrisy and Concerns Around EdTech in Schools * 32:49 Impact on Human Interaction * 45:22 Positive Impact of Social Media and Technology

14 May 2026 - 48 min
episode EP3 - AI won't implement itself: getting buy-in for legal AI artwork

EP3 - AI won't implement itself: getting buy-in for legal AI

In this episode, Ben interviews Elly Meenan and Laura Jeffords-Greenberg, experts in AI implementation in the legal space. They discuss their advocacy for AI, the impact of AI on legal work, the importance of culture in AI adoption, building a culture of AI adoption, the impact of AI on team structure, measuring impact, dealing with cultural challenges, and addressing risk aversion in AI adoption. The conversation highlights the challenges and opportunities of implementing AI in legal and privacy functions, emphasizing the need for use cases and experimentation to drive adoption. The conversation covers the challenges of overcoming fear and skepticism in AI adoption, the measurement of ROI and data metrics for AI adoption, favorite use cases for AI and its impact on daily life, and the future of AI with a focus on agents and automation. Takeaways * AI Implementation Challenges * Culture and Adoption * Use Cases and Experimentation Managing skepticism and fear * Practical applications of AI Chapters * 00:00 Advocacy for AI in Legal Space * 11:11 Measuring Impact and Dealing with Cultural Challenges * 27:04 Overcoming Fear and Skepticism in AI Adoption * 39:15 Favorite Use Cases for AI and Its Impact on Daily Life * 46:19 The Future of AI: Agents and Automation

7 Apr 2026 - 50 min
episode EP2 - Why is designing ethical AI so important? artwork

EP2 - Why is designing ethical AI so important?

Summary: In this episode of Subject Access, host Ben Martin engages with Marie Potel-Saville, co-founder of Fair Patterns and Amurabi, to explore the intersection of law, privacy, and AI. They delve into the ethics of AI, the concept of privacy by design, and the implications of dark patterns in technology. Marie shares her journey from traditional legal practice to her current focus on ethical AI and human-centric legal design, emphasising the need for transparency and critical thinking in AI interactions. The conversation highlights the challenges privacy professionals face in navigating consent and the evolving landscape of AI, urging a shift towards more responsible design practices that prioritise user empowerment and ethical considerations. Keywords: AI ethics, privacy by design, dark patterns, legal design, human-centric AI, automation bias, consent management, ethical AI, user testing, critical thinking Takeaways: * "We need to ensure that AI tools enhance human capabilities, not erode them." * "User testing with privacy professionals involved is the silver bullet for compliance." * "Automation bias can lead to a loss of critical thinking skills." * "Legal red teaming can help identify risks in AI products." Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to AI Ethics and Privacy by Design 01:50 Marie's Journey in Legal Transformation 05:36 The Shift in Privacy and AI Ethics 19:18 Exploring Dark Patterns in AI 26:24 Human-Centric AI Design Responsibilities 38:32 Quick Wins for Ethical AI Design 42:23 Rapid Fire Questions on Dark Patterns and Skills

2 Mar 2026 - 49 min
episode EP1 - Is privacy about to die? artwork

EP1 - Is privacy about to die?

In this episode, I'm joined by Emma Erskine-Fox, a Partner in the Data, Privacy and Cybersecurity team at TLT. We dive deep into the question: Is privacy about to die? And we look at the question through three lenses: 1. Privacy paradox. Do people care about privacy? Will they trade data for things they feel are valuable or cool. We look at open Banking vs LLM usage and the difference around perceived value and privacy awareness. 2. Regulatory overload. GDPR, AI Act, DMA, DSA. Death by assessment? And privacy teams becoming more multidisciplinary. 3. Changes brought about by Agentic AI. When AI agents start making decisions and acting autonomously, how do you explain what happened? How do you apply human oversight to something designed to work without humans?

24 Jan 2026 - 44 min
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