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System Shift: Leading Change So Students Thrive

Podcast by Dr. Gail Angus, Dr. Leesa Huang, and Dr. Mary Beth Kropp

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About System Shift: Leading Change So Students Thrive

“System Shift: Leading Change So Students Thrive” is the go-to podcast for education leaders dedicated to building safe, inclusive learning environments through transformative, sustainable system-wide change. Hosted by Dr. Gail Angus, Dr. Leesa Huang, and Dr. Mary Beth Kropp— expert practitioners with implementing complex initiatives—this podcast blends cutting-edge research, actionable strategies, and authentic stories from education leaders who’ve navigated the challenges of system-wide improvement. Whether you’re launching a district-wide initiative, enhancing current systems, or tackling the challenge of whole-child development, you’ll gain practical insights and tools to lead change with clarity and confidence.

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50 episodes

episode 46: Leading vs. Lagging Indicators: The Key to Driving Real School Improvement artwork

46: Leading vs. Lagging Indicators: The Key to Driving Real School Improvement

Are you measuring what actually moves the needle? In this episode, we break down the difference between leading and lagging indicators and why too many schools rely on end-of-year data to drive decisions. Instead, we explore how focusing on real-time, actionable data can help leaders monitor progress, make adjustments, and build momentum throughout the year. If you want more control over outcomes (instead of waiting for them), this conversation is a must-listen. In This Episode: * The difference between leading vs. lagging indicators * Why lagging data alone can limit improvement * How to use real-time data to adjust and improve systems * The power of small wins and continuous progress monitoring VISIT US AT NAVIGATEDU.COM [https://www.navigatedu.com/]!

18 May 2026 - 15 min
episode 45: MTSS Isn’t Interventions: Reframing MTSS to Include Tier 1 for Real Impact on Student Outcomes artwork

45: MTSS Isn’t Interventions: Reframing MTSS to Include Tier 1 for Real Impact on Student Outcomes

What if MTSS isn’t about interventions at all? In this episode, we challenge a common misconception: that MTSS is primarily about Tier 2 and Tier 3 support. Instead, we reframe MTSS as a proactive, preventative framework—one that starts with strong Tier 1 systems and collective adult responsibility. Using the BRIDGE framework [https://www.navigatedu.com/bridge-coaching], we explore how mindset, clarity, and alignment can shift schools from reactive interventions to building the conditions all students need to succeed. In This Episode: * Why MTSS is a framework—not an intervention system * The critical role of Tier 1 as proactive and preventative * How misalignment leads to program overload and fragmentation * Why adult actions and collective efficacy drive student outcomes VISIT US AT NAVIGATEDU.COM [https://www.navigatedu.com/]!

11 May 2026 - 12 min
episode 43: From Compliance to Commitment: Using Brain Science to Drive Lasting School Change with Dr. Lisa Riegel artwork

43: From Compliance to Commitment: Using Brain Science to Drive Lasting School Change with Dr. Lisa Riegel

What if sustainable change in schools starts with the brain? In this episode, Dr. Lisa Riegel shares how neuroscience can transform leadership and system-wide change. Using her 8 C’s Framework, she explains why initiatives fail and how leaders can build safe, aligned systems that move from compliance to true commitment. In This Episode: * The 8 C’s framework for sustainable change * Why brain science matters for leadership and culture * How to reduce resistance and improve implementation * Simple, brain-aligned strategies to support staff and students Where to find Dr. Lisa Riegel: Lisa A. Riegel Ph.D. | Neuroscience-Driven Leadership & Culture Change [https://lisariegel.com/] Educational Partnerships Institute, LLC - Home [https://www.epinstitute.net/] Amazon.com : lisa riegel [https://www.amazon.com/s?k=lisa+riegel&crid=30TTDXLJRNQMO&sprefix=lisa+riegel%2Caps%2C158&ref=nb_sb_noss_2] Lisa Riegel, PhD | LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisariegel/]   VISIT US AT NAVIGATEDU.COM [https://www.navigatedu.com/]!

27 Apr 2026 - 34 min
episode 42: Interventions Happen Everywhere: Rethinking Tier 1 Responsibility in Schools artwork

42: Interventions Happen Everywhere: Rethinking Tier 1 Responsibility in Schools

What if intervention isn’t a place or a person, but something everyone does? In this episode, the team challenges the traditional view of intervention and explores how schools can shift to a shared responsibility model. Using the BRIDGE framework [https://www.navigatedu.com/bridge-coaching], they highlight how empowering all staff to respond in the moment leads to stronger Tier 1 systems and better outcomes for students. In This Episode: * Why intervention shouldn’t be limited to a program or specialist * How to build shared responsibility across staff * What it looks like when Tier 1 support happens everywhere Learn about The 7 C's of Communication Guidebook [https://www.navigatedu.com/7cs-communication-guidebook] or Purchase here! [https://www.navigatedu.com/offers/yqQKf5QJ]   VISIT US AT NAVIGATEDU.COM [https://www.navigatedu.com/]!

20 Apr 2026 - 14 min
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