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Europe's population reckoning: How can the EU avoid falling off a demographic cliff?

12 min · 29. maj 2026
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It has been called Europe’s demographic time bomb: Older people are living longer, while younger people are having fewer children. Last year in France, for example, deaths outpaced births for the first time since the end of World War II, prompting President Emmanuel Macron to call for "demographic rearmament". According to Eurostat, the European population is expected to shrink by 11.7 percent, or 53 million people, by 2100. A key issue is the fertility rate, which has dropped to around 1.3 births per woman. That is below replacement level. Our guests debate what the EU's priorities should be to prevent the continent from walking off a demographic cliff. Programme prepared by Isabelle Romero, Perrine Desplats, Aline Bottin and Oihana Almandoz

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EU should not miss an opportunity on Ukraine diplomacy: Bulgarian FM Velislava Petrova

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Europe’s fight to stay in the AI race

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Europe's population reckoning: How can the EU avoid falling off a demographic cliff?

It has been called Europe’s demographic time bomb: Older people are living longer, while younger people are having fewer children. Last year in France, for example, deaths outpaced births for the first time since the end of World War II, prompting President Emmanuel Macron to call for "demographic rearmament". According to Eurostat, the European population is expected to shrink by 11.7 percent, or 53 million people, by 2100. A key issue is the fertility rate, which has dropped to around 1.3 births per woman. That is below replacement level. Our guests debate what the EU's priorities should be to prevent the continent from walking off a demographic cliff. Programme prepared by Isabelle Romero, Perrine Desplats, Aline Bottin and Oihana Almandoz

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