Cover image of show Talking With Friends, Sharing the Load Podcast

Talking With Friends, Sharing the Load Podcast

Podcast by Joanna Piros

English

Personal stories & conversations

Limited Offer

2 months for 19 kr.

Then 99 kr. / monthCancel anytime.

  • 20 hours of audiobooks / month
  • Podcasts only on Podimo
  • All free podcasts
Get Started

About Talking With Friends, Sharing the Load Podcast

Some of my richest insights into ageing, health, love and grief, come from conversations with friends. This podcast is the audio version of those reports from the friend front, from the technology front, and from the reluctantly encountered shittiness epidemic. Topics include love, sex, technology, money, and very little politics. joannapiros.substack.com

All episodes

123 episodes

episode Fangirl of the Double Helix artwork

Fangirl of the Double Helix

In this third act of life, many of us are looking to optimize: our health, our work, our time, our relationships. Too bad we couldn’t have done it sooner. I’m certainly not the only one who has come to significant insights into my health and wellness via a long and winding road of hits and misses. My kingdom for a map! That plea to the heavens was answered, recently, when I forked over a few hundred dollars in exchange for the mapping of a few hundred of my genes, specifically the ones I can best act upon. That doesn’t mean I can change them, but I can change how they show up in my life. I spoke with Dr. Lois Nahirney, President and CEO of dnaPower, about the technology and the doors it opens for taking charge of your own health. If you knew early in your life that you were gluten or lactose sensitive, or that your body didn’t absorb iron, or vitamin B, you could make adjustments, right? And even when your genes tell you a story you don’t want to hear, you can choose to make the most of the cards you’ve been dealt. The most high-profile example of this is Aussie superhero Chris Hemsworth [https://variety.com/2026/film/news/chris-hemsworth-alzheimers-gene-acting-career-marvel-1236651968/] (Thor) who discovered, through genetic testing, that he was 8 to 10 times more likely to suffer from Alzheimer’s than the average human. His grandfather has Alzheimer’s and his father was recently diagnosed. This doesn’t guarantee the train is coming down the track for him, but if it is, he can at least slow it down. He talks about this in his National Geographic series, Limitless and in a new documentary, A Road Trip to Remember. A decade ago, only 10 genes were definitely linked with Alzheimer’s but today there are more than 70 which may be associated. The APOE gene is the strongest indicator. “It was a good kick in the arse and a reminder to do whatever is in my power to give myself the best fighting chance,” said Hemsworth. “Whatever work I’m doing for my brain health benefits the rest of my body—we turned it into a positive.” By that he means he can take steps now, while he’s young, to delay any onset. If you have Alzheimer’s in your family, it doesn’t mean you will develop it although if you have a parent or sibling diagnosed your risk is higher. The APOE gene screen can tell you more but again, it’s a predisposition, not a prediction. Full disclosure, I’m such a fan of genetic testing and now wish it was part of a broader public health initiative. That might give a firm shove to the glacial pace at which governments and health care systems move towards prevention, rather than disease treatment. I would be remiss if I didn’t admit that I poured all the technical details of my map into AI and asked for an in-depth interpretation and it didn’t disappoint. 27 pages later I have a comprehensive document of what’s great, what to watch out for and what to avoid. This is information to share with your GP as they truly don’t have the time or background to wade through detailed genetic markers. That’s on you. Soon you’ll be able to get a full accounting of your gut microbiome and the DNA of the entities which inhabit it, as well as a cross-reference of your genes with the medications you have, or will have, prescribed. It’s a big step towards personalized medicine. Nahirney admits DNA can be scary, not just because of what you might find out, but also the privacy fears. The recent bankruptcy of 23andme [https://www.npr.org/2025/03/24/nx-s1-5338622/23andme-bankruptcy-genetic-data-privacy], hot on the heels of a massive data breach, raises legitimate and pressing questions about the security of your DNA data. In that case the genetic data of nearly 7 million users was exposed, as was the admission that the aggregated data was already being sold to pharmaceutical companies. 320,000 Canadians were among those whose data was compromised. Nahirney says her company collects only a few hundred markers intended to put information in the hands of clients, rather than hundreds of thousands of markers to sell on the open market. She uses barcode-only lab processes and destroys your sample after it’s been read. Essentially, in Canada, you have to trust the company you’re sending your cheek swab to as there is little effective legislation to protect it once it’s in the mail. The current regulatory environment in this country relies on the Personal Information Protection and Electronic Documents Act. It was passed in the early days of this millennium, well before direct-to-consumer genetic testing, social media data harvesting, and AI at scale. There was a move to modernize the legislation but it died on the order paper in January of 2025. My enthusiastic musical offering today is an old Neil Diamond song, made most popular by the Monkees. Here they are, in 1967, with “I’m a Believer”. Until next time, get your own roadmap. If you enjoyed this piece, please pass it along to others AND subscribe to get more from me on a weekly basis. I promise never more than that and sometimes, I might miss a week. Ooops. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit joannapiros.substack.com/subscribe [https://joannapiros.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2]

20 May 2026 - 14 min
episode When Relatives Become People artwork

When Relatives Become People

Our flat in Warsaw is on the 5th floor and there’s no elevator. Pretty much the norm in the old buildings and a bonus glute workout which, after two days, we don’t even feel. And that sets the tone for much of my youngest daughter’s first visit to the city where I was born, where her grandparents endured the German occupation, then the Warsaw Uprising, and then the Soviet occupation. The story of our trip is a story of the unexpected bonus, particularly the relatives we had a chance to meet, or spend more time with, and the visceral reality of the places where our family experienced loss and trauma. Like most Eastern European countries, the past is never very far away in Poland. Plaques on buildings and set into sidewalks commemorate who, and how many, lived or died on this spot. For my daughter, who was called Iza by everyone she met, it wasn’t simply sightseeing; she was encountering family history, and her place in it, which opened up a new/old world. It was evident in her reaction to the Old Town, the narrow cobblestoned streets, the cafes and restaurants. It was also evident when we visited the Warsaw Uprising Museum, an immersive experience that made her grandfather’s childhood all too real. It was seeing an ancestor, Stanislaw Moniuszko’s statue in front of the Opera House and knowing our lineage comes from and through that of the “father of Polish opera”. It was there when we hunted down the buildings where my mother and her brother lived with their paternal aunts after their mother was killed in the first day of the bombardment of the city. The cathedral where my parents were married, despite it having no roof several years after the bombing of Warsaw. Here are Iza’s thoughts, looking back on how the trip landed for her. This trip showed me how deeply connected my family is to the country, my Dziadzia’s [grandfather] lasting impact from his contributions in the Warsaw Uprising, and the deep resilience of the Polish people. Many people in my life look at their connections to other countries from several generations away (grandparents or great grandparents) where for me, Poland feels so close as only one generation before me started their life there. For Dziadzia and the Warsaw Uprising, all my knowledge and experience came from seeking out books, research, and waiting for news articles to be published about Dziadzia. It still felt like it happened to someone distant to me, even though I knew it happened to Dziadzia. The Warsaw Uprising museum completely shifted this for me, especially staring at the funeral photo where I learned it was Dziadzia’s childhood friend laying in that grave. Afterwards, walking the streets where he did, visiting his university and the neighbourhood where him and Baba began their family really made it sink in for me. I always knew there was deep bravery, grit and resilience in my family yet being able to walk within it shifted something within me. Not to mention, meeting family that are building their lives in Poland and solidifying those family roots. As someone who has gone through many significant life changes, this trip really helped shift my mindset to recognizing just how precious life really is. I’ve found a new sense of purpose in my life and when things get difficult I remind myself- our family has been through harder. And I push through. Overall, I was able to connect to my history, my culture and my family in ways I couldn’t have imagined. Feeling such pride in my heritage, the strength of those before me, and pure gratitude. These were all threads that began to come together, when ancestral legacy and historical resonance became real, when relatives became people, when history is no longer a footnote but instead is the ground we walked on. The relatives themselves covered multiple generations, from my uncle in his 90s, to my cousins in their 50s, to Iza’s cousins in their teens, 20s and 30s. While the generations all have different perspectives on the past and present of Poland, they also shared traits common not only to Poles, but particularly to our family’s lineage. Despite years under Communist rule they are entrepreneurial, ambitious without being driven, and generous hosts. Poland keeps producing these people — rigorous, serious, doing important work, but also unwilling to be defined by it alone. Despite the upheavals of the contemporary world and despite the years of dark oppression, Poles have emerged to become one of Europe’s most robust economies. That’s no accident. This musical piece, from contemporary and popular Polish artist, Dawid Podsiadło. It’s called “mori” and what I like about the video is the empty streets and bridges of Warsaw, shot during COVID. He has his own YouTube channel if you’re interested. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit joannapiros.substack.com/subscribe [https://joannapiros.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2]

13 May 2026 - 9 min
episode What Will You Do When Your Spouse Dies? artwork

What Will You Do When Your Spouse Dies?

We had some friends over for dinner the other week, just a last minute pot-luck casual kind of thing. The best kind, in my opinion. During the meal the question was floated: if your spouse were to die, would you remarry? Little did we know, as we discussed the issue, that we were replicating, in real time, decades of research. The women all vigorously said “absolutely not” and while the men said, “oh probably not”, it wasn’t nearly as convincing. And of course, there’s the gap between what you say you will do and what you will actually do when the circumstance is upon you. Between the ideaAnd the realityBetween the motionAnd the actFalls the Shadow — T. S. Eliot The challenge, as Eliot and studies bear out [https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9386038/], is that there is a distinct gap between what we intend to do, say we intend to do, and what ultimately happens. We all know we’d like to be brave and stoic in the face of a terminal disease diagnosis and go bravely into the good night but will we, when the time comes? The circumstance of having your spouse die is, one hopes, remote and so it feels emotionally foreign. How then, can we even form an intention when we don’t know how we’ll feel, who and where we’ll be, when it occurs? In general we also imagine grief in the abstract. We expect to feel the loss of that person in our everyday life, the loneliness, the silent house. Women, it seems, also imagine the freedom, right there with the loss, and men may not entirely appreciate how much of their personal infrastructure is sustained by their wives. Sorry for the broad strokes or, as my Warsaw uncle puts it, “that was sewn with a pretty thick thread”. As you might imagine, the rationale for individual choices about remarriage relies on many varied factors including the potential co-mingling of assets which could, and does, go badly in many such circumstances. It’s pretty common to hear that the children, and even grandchildren, of the recently bereaved take huge exception to any new relationship which might intrude on the estate. This isn’t always selfish but rather a need to protect the widow/er from being pillaged. Other concerns hinge on the feeling that the deceased spouse would be, in some way, betrayed by a new relationship, assuming affection was still extant at TOD. Then there’s the thorny challenge of having to meet someone new before any kind of subsequent relationship can even occur. Naturally, I wanted to know what the stats say, as compared to our highly unscientific dinner table data. And, I wanted to canvas my friends and colleagues, of various ages, to see if I could get a sense of the differences across age and gender. Here’s what I found, with the statistical research first: Without allowing for age brackets, Wikipedia says more than 60% of men, and less than 20% of women are remarried or re-paired within two years of being widowed. Within that window, men remarry almost twice as quickly. That gap is even wider as you get older with widowed older men remarrying almost five times more than women do and cohabiting more than twice as much. Sounds like a lot but it’s a percentage of a very small subset. 94% of women remain single after the death of a spouse compared to 75% of men. In other words, most of us will not remarry and very few of us ( A year and half after bereavement, 15% of widows and 37% of widowers over 65) are even interested in dating. As we heard at the dinner table, it’s not just the act of remarrying, it’s the desire or intent that varies. 30% of men say they’re interested in a new spouse within the first six months of their last one dying. That compares to 16% of women. Within that first six months, 15% of those men are actively dating. Less than 1% of women are. Statistics Canada reports women aged 55 and up have more exposure to remarriage as they live longer than men on average, but still have significantly lower rates of remarriage. In Canada in 2022 [https://www.statista.com/statistics/446075/resident-population-canada-by-marital-status-and-gender/], there were 1.59 million widowed women versus 472,170 widowed men so the fishing pond is not evenly stocked. In this country, twice as many widows and widowers remarry than simply live together. Strangely, that’s reversed in Quebec. The average age for these Canadian brides was 63.4 (in 2008) and 72 for the grooms. There’s a saying that “women grieve while men replace” but that wasn’t what I was hearing from my circle, nor does the research necessarily support it. Widows grieve, but not forever. They often come to value freedom they may not have enjoyed earlier, and sometimes they are released from caregiving duties and in no way interested in taking those on with someone new. Especially someone new who’s old. Men, on the other hand, are not driven so much by loneliness as by the need for social and domestic support, particularly amongst men who don’t have a tight circle of friends. The more friends a man has, the less he needs a new wife, basically. It comes as absolutely no surprise that the older you are, the probability of remarriage falls but the drop is much steeper for women. The ground falls away for men around age 65, for women, say goodbye to the fairytale ending at age 55. Pretty much the entire global population shows the same patterns and the same gap over age and gender. No doubt there are some pockets which buck the trend but I’ve yet to discover them. Atlantis maybe? I wanted to canvas my friends and colleagues, of various ages, to see if I could get a sense of the differences across age and gender. I’m absurdly grateful to those of my friends who sent me thoughtful responses. Some of them were, or currently are, in exactly the post-death period, tentatively dipping a toe into the dating pool, only to find the water is slimy and full of disgusting creatures that defy categorization. Others are in the anticipation boat, pushing off into the unknown. A young friend, with young children, explained why I might not have heard from all the other young marrieds I canvassed. I can’t even bring myself to imagine losing my husband with my children so young. Their loss brings me to my knees. With any luck the chances of being widowed are so far in the future that I might be able to think about it, but right now I just can’t. For those in middle age and up, dating is part of the pragmatic side of the situation; the emotional side is much more nuanced: First I have had to get to a space where I am actually ready to wrap my mind around dating someone else. After 3.5 years, I am finally getting there. Until then it has felt like a big no. The thought of dating is tough. Then the thought of finding someone who can show the respect that my husband had for women. Super tough. And a biggie for me. I know I should not try to replace him but he was such an amazing partner and person, he is a really tough act to follow. Regarding the question of marriage, I think it relates to age. If I do actually meet someone, I don’t think I would want to get married. I am not even sure if I would want to live together. Why would I need to? Seeing them a few times a week would be plenty I would think. I like my space. Also, if you did decide to live together, whose place would it be? Also with marriage, there is the financial aspect. I am not interested in sorting that out. I have adult kids and grandkids, and a sister, who will be needing my monies — lol. Remarriage if necessary, but not necessarily remarriage. Never again. I have a cardinal rule …..no co-mingling; not bank accounts, property, credit cards, family and space (closet, bathroom and desk). Only fun, good times, great conversation and thoughtful, caring consideration. Back to displacement theory, for a minute. I look at it from the other end; how would I feel about being dead and having someone new move into my house, use the dishes I chose and sleep in my bed with my husband? Irrational for sure but it’s the way I think about the what-if time, after. Women of a certain age all expressed a concern that anyone they connected with now would likely need caretaking, whether they’re explicitly looking for it or not. There has always been a part of me that felt I wasn’t complete unless I had someone with whom to share my life. That’s no longer the case. I’ve decided the negatives outweigh the positives. Any man who comes into my life now is going to be looking for someone to take care of him. It never seems to be an even playing field, at least in my experience. After my last relationship, my kids questioned why I felt the need to ‘take on’ men. They have told me I’m great on my own, and I’m actually beginning to believe that! Men who have been widowed have different comments about their choices. I know what it is like to lose a spouse of many years and there is a tumble that can lead to deeper loss or somehow a new awakening. For me after about a year and a few early relationships I recognized that I wanted deeper and richer relationships. I spent a lot of time reflecting on the future. What did I want? That emerged fairly quickly for me. Less than one year. I think it bubbled to the surface because of the relationship I had with my wife. One thought that emerged was not to remarry. My commitment is my bond. I had married and felt that if I were to make a commitment to another woman, I did not need a ritual sanctified by the state or church to bless my relationship. I would also have very clear expectations about what I wanted out of a new relationship and would not jump back into a cohabitation arrangement without knowing someone more deeply. I seem to recall four requirements. One, the new partner needed to be intellectually strong, two physically active, three attractive but not a beauty queen with only Gucci clothing; and finally, financially sound. BTW I did not get everything. Another male friend, who lost his wife to cancer when they were in their late 40s, demurs at my recollection of his phone ringing off the wall from would-be partners, in the year following his wife’s death. He does admit, however, that he already had a large circle of single friends and met other singles courtesy of well-intentioned friends who didn’t want to see him alone for too long. At first I thought, oh man, this doesn’t feel right. There were a lot of emotions around it [dating]. I hadn’t closed the door on another long term relationship, lots of guys do, but honestly, I didn’t expect to meet someone just right. When I did, she was ten years younger with young kids and I thought, am I crazy? My dad died when I was 14 and my mom was 47. She began dating what felt like pretty soon after and I asked her why she felt she had to get married again. She was born in the 20s, had never worked and told me she felt she simply had to have a man to look after. A recently widowed female friend has begun dating, with huge reservations. When I fell so madly in love with [my husband] I had no idea how much the loss of him would cost me. The pain has been equal to the love. I wouldn’t want to remarry without that degree of love but fuck me that is scary. I was already an avoidant so add to that a gaping hole in me and it is terrifying to consider doing that again. My girlfriend asked me, “did it not hurt enough the first time”? Some days when I am very lonely, hooking up with a long term partner feels like the solution. This always worries me because another person is never the solution. What no one mentioned, in all my field and scientific research, was the possibility of your late spouse haunting your days so please, enjoy this scene from the 1945 film of the Noel Coward play, “Blithe Spirit”. Poor Ruth, indeed. Until next time, remember what Joni told us: you don’t know what you’ve got ‘til it’s gone. Thanks for reading Talking With Friends, Sharing the Load! This post is public so feel free to share it. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit joannapiros.substack.com/subscribe [https://joannapiros.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2]

6 May 2026 - 17 min
En fantastisk app med et enormt stort udvalg af spændende podcasts. Podimo formår virkelig at lave godt indhold, der takler de lidt mere svære emner. At der så også er lydbøger oveni til en billig pris, gør at det er blevet min favorit app.
En fantastisk app med et enormt stort udvalg af spændende podcasts. Podimo formår virkelig at lave godt indhold, der takler de lidt mere svære emner. At der så også er lydbøger oveni til en billig pris, gør at det er blevet min favorit app.
Rigtig god tjeneste med gode eksklusive podcasts og derudover et kæmpe udvalg af podcasts og lydbøger. Kan varmt anbefales, om ikke andet så udelukkende pga Dårligdommerne, Klovn podcast, Hakkedrengene og Han duo 😁 👍
Podimo er blevet uundværlig! Til lange bilture, hverdagen, rengøringen og i det hele taget, når man trænger til lidt adspredelse.

Choose your subscription

Most popular

Limited Offer

Premium

20 hours of audiobooks

  • Podcasts only on Podimo

  • No ads in Podimo shows

  • Cancel anytime

2 months for 19 kr.
Then 99 kr. / month

Get Started

Premium Plus

Unlimited audiobooks

  • Podcasts only on Podimo

  • No ads in Podimo shows

  • Cancel anytime

Start 7 days free trial
Then 129 kr. / month

Start for free

Only on Podimo

Popular audiobooks

Get Started

2 months for 19 kr. Then 99 kr. / month. Cancel anytime.