The Alternate: Inside America's Biggest Trials

Podcast by Mama Margot Productions LLC

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About The Alternate: Inside America's Biggest Trials

You’ve been summoned. Set your bias aside and take a seat in the jury box—The Alternate brings you inside America’s biggest trials, one season at a time. Hosted by Mama Margot, attorney, veteran, and creator of the hit podcast Military Murder, and Tabitha Kane, business owner and co-host of the hit podcast Housewives of True Crime, this daily podcast delivers serialized, (day of) trial-by-trial coverage in 30 minutes or less. Each season follows a single high-profile case (think Karen Read and Donna Adelson) from opening statement to verdict. No pretrial noise. No media spin. Just the facts revealed in open court—emotions included. Whether you’re tuning in daily or bingeing from the start, Margot and Tabitha are your eyes and ears in the courtroom. Follow The Alternate: Inside America’s Biggest Trials wherever you get your podcasts. For those who prefer visual content, there's a corresponding YouTube channel @alternatepod, where episodes are available. Don't forget to subscribe and turn on notifications. The mission of "The Alternate" is to make trial coverage accessible to everyone and to allow everyone the opportunity to see and hear a trial from start to finish - even if they can't sit and watch a trial for 8 hours each day. Season 1 // Karen Read Retrial (April 2025) Season 2 // Sean Combs Federal Trial (May 2025) Season 3 // Nicholas Kassotis (August 2025) Season 4 // Donna Adelson (August 2025)

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FL v. Donna Adelson // Day 9

Returning from CrimeCon, she shares how news broke mid-flight: Donna was found guilty on all counts. Margot reviews the prosecution’s “death by a thousand cuts” narrative, highlighting motive, money, and connections, contrasted with the defense’s claim of speculation and reasonable doubt. After just three hours, jurors delivered a guilty verdict. Emotional victim impact statements from Dan Markel’s parents followed, offering long-awaited justice. She reflects on Donna’s courtroom outburst, the prosecution’s strength, and what’s next- asking if Wendy Adelson could be charged? ---- Join our Jury Pool & Get Exclusive Content & Perks: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/TheAlternate⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.patreon.com/TheAlternate] 👩🏽‍⚖️👩🏼‍⚖️Follow Your Favorite Trial Besties on Social 📹YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@alternatepod ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [http://www.youtube.com/@alternatepod] 🦋Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thealternatepod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [http://www.instagram.com/thealternatepod] ❤️TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thealternatepod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [http://www.tiktok.com/@thealternatepod] 💙Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thealternatepod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.facebook.com/share/16ArjbYXYn/?mibextid=wwXIfr] Follow the podcast for FREE on all podcast platforms! 🍎Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-alternate-inside-americas-biggest-trials/id1806391482⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-alternate-inside-americas-biggest-trials/id1806391482] 💚Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tr.ee/wxEDQrEJe9⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://tr.ee/wxEDQrEJe9] For Business Inquiries: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠info@thealternatep⁠⁠ [info@thealternatepodcast.com] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices [https://megaphone.fm/adchoices]

9 Sep 2025 - 30 min

FL v. Donna Adelson // Day 8

Day 8 of the Donna Adelson trial closed out the defense’s case with unusual twists and tense testimony. A possible jailhouse witness was floated but never called, leaving unanswered questions. Wendy Adelson’s divorce attorney, Kristen Addison, testified that the divorce was not contentious, though details suggested otherwise. Expert witness Linda Bailey echoed this but faced backlash for watching prior testimony without approval, raising judicial concern. The prosecution pushed back hard, emphasizing ongoing disputes and Donna’s deep involvement. Donna herself declined to testify, and the day ended with a victim advocate confirming her shock at Dan Markel’s murder... ---- Join our Jury Pool & Get Exclusive Content & Perks: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/TheAlternate⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.patreon.com/TheAlternate] 👩🏽‍⚖️👩🏼‍⚖️Follow Your Favorite Trial Besties on Social 📹YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@alternatepod ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [http://www.youtube.com/@alternatepod] 🦋Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thealternatepod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [http://www.instagram.com/thealternatepod] ❤️TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thealternatepod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [http://www.tiktok.com/@thealternatepod] 💙Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thealternatepod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.facebook.com/share/16ArjbYXYn/?mibextid=wwXIfr] Follow the podcast for FREE on all podcast platforms! 🍎Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-alternate-inside-americas-biggest-trials/id1806391482⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-alternate-inside-americas-biggest-trials/id1806391482] 💚Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tr.ee/wxEDQrEJe9⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://tr.ee/wxEDQrEJe9] For Business Inquiries: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠info@thealternatep⁠ [info@thealternatepodcast.com] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices [https://megaphone.fm/adchoices]

4 Sep 2025 - 28 min

FL v. Donna Adelson // Day 7

On Day 7, key witnesses take the stand, including Ann Cunningham, Donna's best friend, who shares insights into their close-knit relationship and the events surrounding Dan Markell's tragic death. Ron Gutterson, Ann's partner, provides testimony on the Adelsons' family dynamics, while digital forensic expert Kelsey Guay challenges the prosecution's evidence with her analysis of phone records. We also hear from Richard Chagrin, a long-time friend of the Adelsons, and private investigator Eddie Varnes, whose testimony raises questions about the defense's tactics. Join us as we explore the complexities of this high-profile case and the defense's efforts to clear Donna Adelson's name. ---- Join our Jury Pool & Get Exclusive Content & Perks: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/TheAlternate⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.patreon.com/TheAlternate] 👩🏽‍⚖️👩🏼‍⚖️Follow Your Favorite Trial Besties on Social 📹YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@alternatepod ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [http://www.youtube.com/@alternatepod] 🦋Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thealternatepod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [http://www.instagram.com/thealternatepod] ❤️TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thealternatepod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [http://www.tiktok.com/@thealternatepod] 💙Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thealternatepod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.facebook.com/share/16ArjbYXYn/?mibextid=wwXIfr] Follow the podcast for FREE on all podcast platforms! 🍎Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-alternate-inside-americas-biggest-trials/id1806391482⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-alternate-inside-americas-biggest-trials/id1806391482] 💚Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tr.ee/wxEDQrEJe9⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://tr.ee/wxEDQrEJe9] For Business Inquiries: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠info@thealternatep [info@thealternatepodcast.com] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices [https://megaphone.fm/adchoices]

3 Sep 2025 - 18 min

FL v. Donna Adelson // Day 6

Day 6 of the Donna Adelson trial brought more wiretap revelations and tense courtroom moments. Special Agent Patrick Sanford wrapped up his testimony after days of difficult-to-hear recordings, capturing Donna’s fears and escape plans to Vietnam via Dubai. Evidence revealed her refusal to surrender her phone, filled with incriminating WhatsApp messages and meticulous planner notes about fleeing, finances, and jewelry sales. Jailhouse informants Patricia Byrd and Drina Bernhardt testified about Donna’s attempts to influence testimony, supported by her handwritten notes. ---- Join our Jury Pool & Get Exclusive Content & Perks: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/TheAlternate⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.patreon.com/TheAlternate] 👩🏽‍⚖️👩🏼‍⚖️Follow Your Favorite Trial Besties on Social 📹YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@alternatepod ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [http://www.youtube.com/@alternatepod] 🦋Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thealternatepod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [http://www.instagram.com/thealternatepod] ❤️TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thealternatepod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [http://www.tiktok.com/@thealternatepod] 💙Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thealternatepod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.facebook.com/share/16ArjbYXYn/?mibextid=wwXIfr] Follow the podcast for FREE on all podcast platforms! 🍎Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-alternate-inside-americas-biggest-trials/id1806391482⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-alternate-inside-americas-biggest-trials/id1806391482] 💚Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tr.ee/wxEDQrEJe9⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://tr.ee/wxEDQrEJe9] For Business Inquiries: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠info@thealternatepodcast.com [info@thealternatepodcast.com] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices [https://megaphone.fm/adchoices]

1 Sep 2025 - 45 min

FL v. Donna Adelson // Day 5

It’s Day 5 of the Donna Adelson trial, and Agent Sanford returned to the stand as the jury endured hours of difficult wiretap audio. Prosecutors presented transcripts from key conversations, including Charlie Adelson’s lengthy rants with Katie MagBanua about the “bump,” coded messages, and speculation about law enforcement surveillance. Donna and Charlie’s phone calls revealed paranoia, contradictions, and repeated reassurances of “don’t worry.” Notably, Charlie admitted to discussing rental vehicles before that fact was public, and his rambling revealed desperation. The prosecution also introduced the “bump letter,” marking a critical turning point in the case. ---- Join our Jury Pool & Get Exclusive Content & Perks: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/TheAlternate⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.patreon.com/TheAlternate] 👩🏽‍⚖️👩🏼‍⚖️Follow Your Favorite Trial Besties on Social 📹YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@alternatepod ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [http://www.youtube.com/@alternatepod] 🦋Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thealternatepod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [http://www.instagram.com/thealternatepod] ❤️TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thealternatepod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [http://www.tiktok.com/@thealternatepod] 💙Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thealternatepod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.facebook.com/share/16ArjbYXYn/?mibextid=wwXIfr] Follow the podcast for FREE on all podcast platforms! 🍎Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-alternate-inside-americas-biggest-trials/id1806391482⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-alternate-inside-americas-biggest-trials/id1806391482] 💚Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tr.ee/wxEDQrEJe9⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://tr.ee/wxEDQrEJe9] For Business Inquiries: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠info@thealternatepodcast.com⁠⁠ [info@thealternatepodcast.com] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices [https://megaphone.fm/adchoices]

29 Aug 2025 - 50 min

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