The Human Perimeter

People Are Not the Weakest Link

48 min · 19. maj 2026
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The security industry has called people the weakest link for 30 years. Cybersecurity psychologist Inge Wetzer says the weakness isn't in the people — it's in how the industry understands them. André and Simon dig into why that framing is wrong, why training theater backfires, and what it actually means to treat people as the perimeter.

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