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The MindfulMess with Gene & Matt

Podcast by The MindfulMess

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About The MindfulMess with Gene & Matt

The MindfulMess is hosted by Gene Sun and Matt Salmon, two people who seek to learn and grow as humans. Gene is a fitness professional studying organizational psychology and a first generation queer Asian American who sees every conversation as an opportunity to both express and shape his cultural identity. Matt is a pediatric and adult psychiatrist, who is queer, autistic, and is thriving after trauma from conversion therapy. We will share our experiences & how we've gown from them, be curious about others', and invite you all to share in this journey with us. New episodes every Saturday!

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23 episodes

episode Episode 22: The Myths of Mind Reading artwork

Episode 22: The Myths of Mind Reading

Humans love stories, and whether we realize it or not, most of us are usually narrating some kind of story about the things that happen around us. The challenge is that those stories aren't always accurate, and we all have personal biases that influence our perception of what those around us really mean by their words and actions. In this episode, we talk about mind reading, why it can cause conflict and challenge for us when we do it, and discuss what it looks like to adopt a different way of understanding the world, especially in relationships and interactions with those around us. Gene touches on how the work of cognitive behavioral therapy feeds into the ability to overcome mind-reading, and Matt provides a similar nod to acceptance commitment therapy to a similar end. Give it a listen and let us know what you think; after all, we can’t read your minds!

22 Oct 2023 - 58 min
episode Episode 20. Fairness, Equality, & Equity artwork

Episode 20. Fairness, Equality, & Equity

We all agree that fairness is an important ideal in so many areas of our lives. We seek fairness in our relationships, in human and civil rights, in our workplaces, among many other places. But is it achievable? What does it really look like? What is the cost of pursuing fairness, and what is the cost of not pursuing it? We try to distinguish the difference between equality and equity, and why there’s a need to move beyond equality and see equity as the necessary evolution in the pursuit of fairness. We discuss how equity fits into the social movement for diversity and inclusion, especially in the workplace, where much of this conversation is happening. And Matt picks a bone with the expression that "life isn't fair." Fairness is much more than a state of things; it is a process, the result of all the choices we make, and a willingness to have hard conversations. To desire fairness is to also embrace the rapidly expanding definition of diversity, and define and redefine fairness with that understanding over and over again. We hope you enjoy this episode! References: Pre-sale link for Matt's Book! [https://matt-salmon.presale.manuscripts.com/] Loving What Is - Byron Katie [https://thework.com/books/]

16 Sep 2023 - 59 min
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Episode 18. Perfectionism & Procrastination

Perfectionism is something many of us struggle with, and for those of us who know it well, we know that it can create a lot of stress for us, and can feel heavy to carry in our day to day lives. In this week’s episode, we discuss perfectionism and where we think it comes from, as well as some of the psychological challenges it presents. We also tie it in with procrastination; Matt talks about some of the many ways that procrastination can creep into our lives and provides some suggestions for how to overcome it. Our conversation delves into the topics of perfectionism and how it influences self-esteem, how society escalates and pressurizes perfection, and even how our education systems perpetuate perfectionism in certain ways at their very core. We discuss what a path away from perfectionism could look like, and much more in this discussion. Thanks for listening, and please enjoy! References: American-Born Chinese [https://ondisneyplus.disney.com/show/american-born-chinese] on Disney+

5 Aug 2023 - 1 h 36 min
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