Founder of Leaving Maga - Rich Logis

Maga Is Crumbling

In this week's midweek episode Chad shows Mary Lou video about Stonewall, Todd Blanche's new power to move anyone to any prison he wants, Trump saying he wants housing prices to rise and Dr. Oz lying about crowd sizes at Trump events. Mary Lou offers her own video clips about Trump's "Human Printer." If you have a question for anyone on the show, record it in a 1 minute or under audio or video clip and send it to: thenecessaryconversationpod@gmail.com

Is Trump Close To Death?

This week on The Necessary Conversation, Chad, Haley, and Mary Lou discuss the biggest topics in politics. 💊 News broke that the FDA's "compassionate use" program — reserved for patients with serious or life-threatening conditions — was used to give a single 79-year-old man access to an unapproved experimental drug called Retatrutide. Trump was 79 when the request was made. The drug treats obesity, sleep apnea, and pulmonary hypertension — conditions that can be fatal in combination. The White House is denying it's Trump. We ask: should the president get special access to treatments no other American can? 💣 Week 18 of Trump's war. New reporting reveals the Joint Chiefs warned Trump before the war that striking Iran would close the Strait of Hormuz. He ignored them. The memorandum of understanding he signed is already falling apart as Iran launched drones at ships in the strait this week. The Senate voted to limit Trump's war powers, then blocked its own vote the next day. We ask Mom and Dad: how many weeks of war before you turn on him? Or is forever okay? 👻 Trump's Great American State Fair kicked off and almost nobody showed up. Trump posted it was "packed to the brim, at least 45,000 people." NBC estimated roughly 1,000. We ask: is MAGA abandoning Trump? 🎨 We simmer down to talk about our favorite pieces of visual art. 🛂 Trump posted the design of a new passport featuring his image superimposed over the Declaration of Independence with the caption "Welcome, but be good!" — apparently not understanding that passports are issued to Americans leaving the country, not people arriving. No sitting president or world leader has ever put their face on a passport. Not even the most authoritarian governments. ⚖️ The Supreme Court issued two 6-3 rulings effectively ending asylum in America, giving DHS unchecked power to deport Haitian and Syrian nationals and allowing the administration to turn away asylum seekers before they reach the border. Meanwhile, over 6,000 white South Africans have entered the U.S. under a refugee program — each receiving a gift bag with a tablet, an American flag, Trump's 1776 Commission report, PragerU materials, and a children's book accusing South Africa of "favoring the Black population." Afghan allies who served alongside U.S. troops got nothing. Many are still blocked from entry. 📖 Texas voted to mandate Bible stories as required reading for all 5.5 million public school students — no texts from any other religion included. The same day, Texas Lt. Governor Dan Patrick stood in the Oval Office and declared: "The separation of church and state is not in the Constitution, and from this day forward, that phrase should have no power over people of all faiths ever again." We ask Mom and Dad: should public schools force kids to read the Bible? This one goes deep. Buckle up. 🔔 Subscribe and hit the bell so you never miss an episode. 💬 Drop your thoughts in the comments — we read them all. #TrumpIran #Retatrutide #StateFair #Passport #SupremeCourt #Asylum #SouthAfrica #BibleInSchools #SeparationOfChurchAndState #TheNecessaryConversation #FamilyPodcast #PoliticalDebate #MAGA #Liberal If you have a question for anyone on the show, record it in a 1 minute or under audio or video clip and send it to: thenecessaryconversationpod@gmail.com

Lib Sibs!

Haley is back in Oklahoma helping Mary Lou take Bob to some doctors appointments, and she makes time to have a conversation with Chad about politics and the current state of the country. If you have a question for anyone on the show, record it in a 1 minute or under audio or video clip and send it to: thenecessaryconversationpod@gmail.com

Swamp Thing

This week on The Necessary Conversation, Chad (who just turned 50! 🎂), Haley, and Mary Lou celebrate Father's Day and discuss: 💣 Week 17 of Trump's war with Iran. Trump declared "The Deal is now complete" on Sunday. By Wednesday he and Iran's president signed a memorandum of understanding at Versailles. By Thursday, Israel broke the ceasefire with 12 air raids on Lebanon, killing 47 people. By Saturday, Iran closed the Strait of Hormuz again. The deal is effectively dead. We ask Mom and Dad: why can't Trump close this deal, and why won't Netanyahu listen to him? 🟢 Trump promised to clean up the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool for under $2 million. It's now cost over $15 million, the "American Flag Blue" paint is peeling off in chunks, the water turned green with algae, and a 67-year-old three-time Olympian was arrested for touching a piece of already-detached liner. Both contracts were no-bid deals — one to a major Trump donor, the other to a company that had never held a federal contract. Trump blamed "Radical Left vandals." The National Guard was deployed to guard a peeling swimming pool. 👶 A police officer in Mississippi shot and killed 1-year-old Kohen Kartier Wiley in a Walmart parking lot. The mother says she was telling officers there was a baby in the car — and they fired anyway. The officer has not been named. Body camera footage hasn't been released. We ask a question that shouldn't need asking: are cops ever justified in killing a one-year-old? 🎉 We simmer down to celebrate Chad's 50th birthday. Mom shares her advice for the years ahead. 🏗️ Leaked internal records from the Washington Post reveal Trump's White House ballroom now costs $600 million — six times his original estimate — and taxpayers are paying for half of it through Secret Service, White House Military Office, and Executive Residence funds. This after Trump said repeatedly that taxpayers wouldn't pay "10 cents." We ask: did he lie? 🥊 At last week's White House UFC, fighter Josh Hokit used his post-fight interview with Joe Rogan to declare "Michelle Obama is a man." Dana White called it "nasty and false" but took no action. Trump smiled. The White House refused to condemn it. We ask Mom what she thinks — especially since Dad has said the same thing on this very show. 🚨 Federal prosecutors charged 15 people in Minnesota with conspiracy for protesting ICE, calling them an "antifa group." Twelve were arrested in early morning raids. When pressed, the U.S. Attorney couldn't cite a single injury to a federal agent. U.S. Marshals pepper-sprayed protesters outside the courthouse. We ask: is protesting ICE now a crime? Another massive week. Let's get into it. 🔔 Subscribe and hit the bell so you never miss an episode. 💬 Drop your thoughts in the comments — we read them all. #TrumpIran #ReflectingPool #BallroomLies #UFC250 #MichelleObama #Antifa #ICE #Mississippi #TheNecessaryConversation #FamilyPodcast #PoliticalDebate #MAGA #Liberal If you have a question for anyone on the show, record it in a 1 minute or under audio or video clip and send it to: thenecessaryconversationpod@gmail.com

Founder of Leaving Maga - Rich Logis

Today we are honored to have a very special guest. The founder of LeavingMaga.org Rich Logis. Will he be able to find some common ground with Mary Lou and help her inch closer to leaving Maga herself, or will he push her back to Trump? https://leavingmaga.org/ If you have a question for anyone on the show, record it in a 1 minute or under audio or video clip and send it to: thenecessaryconversationpod@gmail.com