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Is There Actually Money In Fashion? Papy Kaluw On Where Fashion Stands.

1 h 27 min · 4. juni 2026
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The global fashion industry is worth $2.5 trillion. Africa's share? $31 billion, barely 1%. Papy Kaluw knows what that gap feels like. He left Congo as a child, dropped out of university, taught himself fashion, and built Urban Zulu from nothing. Today, he's dressed celebrities and opened pop-ups in Manhattan. But the journey from selling T-shirts outside Market Theatre to running a global brand has been anything but glamorous. In this conversation with Leslie Kasumba, Papy gets honest about why he left South Africa, whether his brand will outlive him, and the question no one asks: is there actually money in this business? This is not a victory lap. It's a founder sitting inside the tension between scramble and stable.

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