Think Like a CMO with Sarah Gemmell

The Four-Part Marketing System That Creates Predictable Leads

22 min · 15. maj 2026
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We break down the four-part marketing system we use to build predictable lead flow without chasing trends or busy work. We explain how to spot the real bottleneck in your pipeline so you stop making emotional changes and start making data-based decisions.  • why a signature process makes marketing tangible without rigid steps  • the Attract stage and consistent visibility with the right audience  • the Nurture stage and what trust building actually looks like  • how Instagram, TikTok, and email function differently in the pipeline  • Convert as sales plus micro conversions that happen before buying  • outbound outreach, follow-up, and having more real conversations  • Optimize through KPIs, tracking trends over time, and avoiding panic pivots  • diagnosing website performance by separating conversion rate from traffic volume  Connect with me on Instagram [https://instagram.com/sarahgemmell_] and TikTok [https://tiktok.com/sarahgemmell_] Book a free clarity call with me here to discuss your marketing: https://sarahjeanco.com/clarity-call [https://sarahjeanco.com/clarity-call] Want to get email updates when new episodes drop and special deals on marketing support? Subscribe here Learn more about how we can help you with psychology-led Marketing & Messaging [https://sarahjeanco.com/services]  NOTE: we are not currently accepting pitches for guests

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