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This Too Is Rescue: Moral Injury and Staying Human in Animal Care

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About This Too Is Rescue: Moral Injury and Staying Human in Animal Care

story + research + advocacy + soul If you’re drawn to the raw and real side of animal care, the part that goes beyond saving lives and asks what it means to be human while we do it: this is for you. We’ll explore the human-animal bond, the values that drive us, the morality we wrestle with, and the deeper question of what it means to work in animal care and hold onto humanity in the midst of it all. Jamie McNally, Ph.D, LPC is a mental health professional, wellness coach, trauma expert, moral injury researcher, military veteran, and active shelter volunteer at a high intake city shelter.

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27 episodes

episode Finding Your Frequency Part 2: Meeting the Maven and Getting Out of the Shadows artwork

Finding Your Frequency Part 2: Meeting the Maven and Getting Out of the Shadows

In Part 2 of this series, we are talking about the shadow side of our frequencies.In this episode you'll hear where I'm angry and devastated, and the truth about what I've started to wonder in the shadows. But also why animal welfare isn't full of difficult people. It's full of some of the best people alive, standing in their own shadow, unable to find the light switch. And I'm asking us to be willing to see our shadows so we can choose to move out of them and to get into the light. Read the written version on mySubstack Human + Animal. In it together, for the love of all living beings. Disclaimer: This program, including all podcast content and any related materials, is not a substitute for therapy, counseling, psychological services, or any form of medical or mental health treatment. While the host of this podcast is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), she is not operating in the capacity of a therapist within this program. Engaging with this program does not establish a therapist-client relationship. No diagnosis, treatment, or clinical intervention will be provided. The purpose of this program is for education and personal growth—not for mental health treatment. If you are experiencing significant emotional distress, symptoms of a mental health condition, or are in crisis, this program is not appropriate for your needs. You are encouraged to seek the support of a licensed mental health provider in your area.

12 Jul 2026 - 20 min
episode Finding Your Frequency (In Animal Care) - PART ONE Unburying the Wounded Healer artwork

Finding Your Frequency (In Animal Care) - PART ONE Unburying the Wounded Healer

This is Part 1 Finding Your Frequency, a three-part series about the parts of ourselves this work buries, and how we go back for them.Referenced in this episode: The Seven Frequencies of Communication by Erwin Raphael McManus; Internal Family Systems (parts work) by Richard Schwartz. This episode also lives as a written essay on my Substack, Human + Animal. Listen or read — whichever one reaches you at the right signal. In it together, for the love of all living beings. Disclaimer: This program, including all podcast content and any related materials, is not a substitute for therapy, counseling, psychological services, or any form of medical or mental health treatment. While the host of this podcast is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), she is not operating in the capacity of a therapist within this program. Engaging with this program does not establish a therapist-client relationship. No diagnosis, treatment, or clinical intervention will be provided. The purpose of this program is for education and personal growth—not for mental health treatment. If you are experiencing significant emotional distress, symptoms of a mental health condition, or are in crisis, this program is not appropriate for your needs. You are encouraged to seek the support of a licensed mental health provider in your area.

2 Jul 2026 - 17 min
episode Are You Being Bullied...Or Mobbed? artwork

Are You Being Bullied...Or Mobbed?

In nature, mobbing protects the vulnerable. In our workplaces, it can destroy them. In this episode, Dr. Jamie McNally discusses the difference between bullying and mobbing in animal care. Disclaimer: This program, including all podcast content and any related materials, is not a substitute for therapy, counseling, psychological services, or any form of medical or mental health treatment. While the host of this podcast is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), she is not operating in the capacity of a therapist within this program. Engaging with this program does not establish a therapist-client relationship. No diagnosis, treatment, or clinical intervention will be provided. The purpose of this program is for education and personal growth—not for mental health treatment. If you are experiencing significant emotional distress, symptoms of a mental health condition, or are in crisis, this program is not appropriate for your needs. You are encouraged to seek the support of a licensed mental health provider in your area.

26 Jun 2026 - 24 min
episode Let's Talk About Moral Injury: What Do You Want To Hear About Next? artwork

Let's Talk About Moral Injury: What Do You Want To Hear About Next?

This brief episode is a reminder that none of us have mastery over this space. It is vast and complex, and we are all still learning. It's also an invitation to reach out. This topic is massive and the best way to explore it is to ensure we are having this conversation together. The language of moral injury, is never about just one person talking, so if you have something you want to explore on the podcast, or a question you want answered, please reach out. I would love to hear from you! Disclaimer: This program, including all podcast content and any related materials, is not a substitute for therapy, counseling, psychological services, or any form of medical or mental health treatment. While the host of this podcast is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), she is not operating in the capacity of a therapist within this program. Engaging with this program does not establish a therapist-client relationship. No diagnosis, treatment, or clinical intervention will be provided. The purpose of this program is for education and personal growth—not for mental health treatment. If you are experiencing significant emotional distress, symptoms of a mental health condition, or are in crisis, this program is not appropriate for your needs. You are encouraged to seek the support of a licensed mental health provider in your area.

21 May 2026 - 7 min
episode Oh Sh*t, I Might Be a Bully!": On Perpetration, Shame, Guilt, and Taking Ownership artwork

Oh Sh*t, I Might Be a Bully!": On Perpetration, Shame, Guilt, and Taking Ownership

We talk a lot about toxic workplaces, toxic people, and how to protect ourselves from harm. But what happens when we realize the person causing harm might be us? In this episode, Dr. Jamie McNally explores how most workplace bullying doesn't come from people who intend to cause harm or find pleasure in it; it comes from people who engage in harmful behaviors unintentionally, and that means we may just be susceptible to engaging in it, too. "Oh Sh*t, I might be the bully!" Disclaimer: This program, including all podcast content and any related materials, is not a substitute for therapy, counseling, psychological services, or any form of medical or mental health treatment. While the host of this podcast is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), she is not operating in the capacity of a therapist within this program. Engaging with this program does not establish a therapist-client relationship. No diagnosis, treatment, or clinical intervention will be provided. The purpose of this program is for education and personal growth—not for mental health treatment. If you are experiencing significant emotional distress, symptoms of a mental health condition, or are in crisis, this program is not appropriate for your needs. You are encouraged to seek the support of a licensed mental health provider in your area.

14 May 2026 - 16 min
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