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Through Rough Waters

Podcast by WCSG

English

Health & personal development

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In this podcast, join Zach Allen & Kevin DeKam, from West Michigan Wellness Group, as they journey through the world of mental health. will explore the world of mental health with a Biblical perspective. Topics include the therapy process as a whole and in-depth discussion of specific topics such as depression, anxiety, and addiction. Each episode will include insight from licensed professional counselors, scripture, and Q&A.

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42 episodes

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Episode 42 - What is Christian Counseling?

In this episode, Zach & Kevin are joined by Nicole Fryling from West Michigan Wellness Group as we continue our “Back to Basics” mini-series by talking about Christian counseling, including how Christian counselors use the Bible and its truth as the foundation of all their conversations, the relationship and interconnection between between pastoral counseling and Christian counseling, and the differences between “clinical” counseling and Christian counseling. If you have a question for this season’s Q&A, you can email throughroughwaters@wcsg.org [throughroughwaters@wcsg.org] or submit your question anonymously at www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/ [https://www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/].  Join our podcast Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/614032698063919 [https://www.facebook.com/groups/614032698063919] Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit www.westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/ [https://westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/].  ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

19 May 2026 - 45 min
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Episode 41 - What Is Counseling?

In this episode, Zach & Kevin are joined by Nicole Fryling from West Michigan Wellness Group. Together, we’re kicking off our Spring mini-series called “Back to Basics.” We start our conversation by answering the question, “What is counseling?” We’ll also take a look at the biblical foundation of the entire concept of “counsel,” define the professional relationship between a counselor and a client, share how one of the most important parts of counseling takes place outside of the counselor’s office, and discuss some of the reasons that someone can benefit from professional counseling. If you have a question for this season’s Q&A, you can email throughroughwaters@wcsg.org [throughroughwaters@wcsg.org] or submit your question anonymously at www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/ [https://www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/].  Join our podcast Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/614032698063919 [https://www.facebook.com/groups/614032698063919] Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit www.westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/ [https://westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/].  ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

22 Apr 2026 - 42 min
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Episode 40 - Sacred Desire

In this episode, Zach & Kevin are joined by Bridgett Blood to talk about how Christian singles & Christians who are dating can engage their God-given and God-wired sexuality in a healthy, Biblical, and God-honoring way. We talk about reframing this conversation from lists of “dos and don’ts” to honoring the way God created us, while still holding appropriate and Biblical boundaries. We also talk about how our sexual story is not “on pause” until or unless we get married, the difference between lust and longing, and the importance of finding our pleasure both in God and through God. Connect with Bridgett Instagram: @bridgettblood  [https://www.instagram.com/bridgettblood/] Website: bridgettblood.com [http://bridgettblood.com/] Bridgett’s RECLAIM Cohort A 10wk virtual group for adult Christian singles and daters ready to reclaim sexual desire as sacred, not sinful. Only a few spots left! Here is the link to info and the application. https://bridgettblood.com/reclaim [https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbridgettblood.com%2Freclaim&data=05%7C02%7Czach%40wcsg.org%7C2c47bde033ce4b85588a08de39ca63af%7C3306eba9786b44e486dcee973f6878ad%7C0%7C0%7C639011738605873717%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=FOPcp%2BqpcKgFd805h%2BFM1VGQcsoNGfrssZqhvWMKUd0%3D&reserved=0]     If you have a question for this season’s Q&A, you can email throughroughwaters@wcsg.org [throughroughwaters@wcsg.org] or submit your question anonymously at www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/ [https://www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/].  Join our podcast Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/614032698063919 [https://www.facebook.com/groups/614032698063919] Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit www.westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/ [https://westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/].  ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

16 Dec 2025 - 49 min
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Episode 39 - Loving Through Disappointment

In this episode, Zach & Kevin are joined by Nicole Fryling to talk about loving through disappointment. We talk about some of the reasons disappointing relationships exist, how to look at yourself first to see what can change, the importance of healthy lament, and how to pray & love through a disappointing relationship. If you have a question for this season’s Q&A, you can email throughroughwaters@wcsg.org [throughroughwaters@wcsg.org] or submit your question anonymously at www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/ [https://www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/].  Join our podcast Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/614032698063919 [https://www.facebook.com/groups/614032698063919] Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit www.westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/ [https://westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/].  ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

26 Nov 2025 - 44 min
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Episode 38 - Intentional, Selfless, and Intelligent Love

In this episode, Zach & Kevin are joined by marriage therapist Jim Brazel to talk about how to be emotionally intelligent, spiritually intelligent, and romantically intelligent spouses, and why it’s so critical to turn toward (and not away from) your spouse during conflict. If you have a question for this season’s Q&A, you can email throughroughwaters@wcsg.org [throughroughwaters@wcsg.org] or submit your question anonymously at www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/ [https://www.wcsg.org/podcasts/through-rough-waters/].  Join our podcast Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/614032698063919 [https://www.facebook.com/groups/614032698063919] Thanks to West Michigan Wellness Group for supporting Through Rough Waters - for more information about WMWG and to inquire about seeing a therapist, you can call (616) 600-1187 or visit www.westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/ [https://westmichiganwellnessgroup.com/contact/].  ======== This podcast and its content are designed and intended to provide a place for conversation. Topics and advice covered in this podcast should not be taken as professional medical advice or emotional or spiritual counsel. If you or a loved one needs professional help, they should seek a licensed professional. The views covered and discussed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University. Ideas presented are not necessarily endorsed by WCSG Radio or Cornerstone University.

21 Oct 2025 - 49 min
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