Walking the Camino: Faith, Family, and Doing Hard Things: A Conversation with Dave and Jll McLain
What can a 173-mile pilgrimage teach a family about faith, resilience, and life together? Dave and Jll McLain join Pastor Nate on Together 4 Good to share how they walked the Camino de Santiago from Porto, Portugal, to Santiago de Compostela, Spain, with their four children. Along the way, aching feet, welcoming villages, fellow pilgrims, and small acts of generosity open into a conversation about family sabbaticals, resilience, faith milestones, and why shared challenges can make strangers feel like family.
In This Episode
âąÂ  The Caminoâs Christian roots and its modern life as a global pilgrimage route
âąÂ  Why the McLains chose the Portuguese Way and walked 280 kilometers in 13 consecutive days
âąÂ  How physical challenge creates resilience, perspective, and lasting family memories
âąÂ  The scallop shell, pilgrim passport, and rituals that build connection along the way
âąÂ  How hospitality and generosity let entire communities participate in a pilgrimage
Key Takeaways
âąÂ  Hard things become part of our toolbox. Completing a difficult journey gives us evidence that we can face the next challenge.
âąÂ  Pilgrimage is communal. The marked path, shared symbols, fellow travelers, and hospitality of local communities remind us that faith is never practiced alone.
âąÂ  Milestones matter. Camino stamps and certificates echo the faith markersâbaptism, confirmation, a first Bibleâthat help us remember where we have been.
âąÂ  Travel and time together are intentional investments. Encountering other cultures can nurture empathy while meaningful family experiences strengthen relationships into adulthood.
Chapters
00:00Â Coming up â A Christian pilgrimage through Portugal and Spainâand what it reveals about faith and parenting.
01:22Â What is the Camino? â Dave traces the tradition of the Camino de Santiago and its modern revival.
04:40Â Following the Way â Jll explains the route markers, pilgrim infrastructure, and villages that welcome walkers.
10:55Â A family rhythm of sabbatical â Dave shares how extended family adventures grew from a commitment to work to live.
14:42Â Why this journey, why now â Their oldest daughterâs idea becomes an invitation for the whole family.
16:45Â Planning lightly â Experienced travelers, last-minute gear, and a willingness to figure things out together.
17:52Â Thirteen days and 173 miles â The physical reality of walking about 14 miles a dayâand when it finally began to feel possible.
20:08Â We can do hard things â Challenge, shared struggle, and the experiences that equip children for real life.
22:00Â Going through it â Why pilgrimage is not a resort experience, and how difficult moments can reshape us.
24:44Â The scallop shell â A visible sign of belonging creates camaraderie and practical care among pilgrims.
27:26Â Arriving in Santiago â The cathedral square, pilgrimâs Mass, passport stamps, and certificates of completion.
31:11Â Generosity along the path â A box of plums becomes a picture of hospitality offered without recognition or thanks.
32:39Â A microcosm of faith â The Camino reflects the highs, lows, community, and milestones of a life of faith.
33:43Â Travel and empathy â Shared meals and cross-cultural experiences help form curiosity, tolerance, and love.
34:58Â Choosing time with adult children â Dave and Jll reflect on the privilege, sacrifice, and joy of saying yes to time together.
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