Totally Rewarding Chats | Ep. 38: The Debate over Geo Diffs

Totally Rewarding Chats | HR and Payroll 2.0 Special Episode

In this special episode Paul and Sean sit down with HR and Payroll 2.0 hosts Pete Tiliakos and Julie Fernandez. It is a lively conversation from the floor at WorldatWork Total Rewards '26 where they chat all things total rewards, AI, work flexibility and the changing expectations shaping the workforce. Connect with Pete, Julie and their show: LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/company/hr-payroll-2-0 [http://linkedin.com/company/hr-payroll-2-0] X: @HRPayroll2_0 [https://twitter.com/HRPAYROLL2_0]  X: @PeteTiliakos [https://twitter.com/PeteTiliakos]  X: @JulieFer_HR [https://twitter.com/juliefer_hr] BlueSky: @hrpayroll2o.bsky.social [https://bsky.app/profile/hrpayroll2o.bsky.social] YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HRPAYROLL2_0 [https://www.youtube.com/@HRPAYROLL2_0]  WRKDefined Podcast Network: https://wrkdefined.com/podcast/hr-payroll-20 [https://wrkdefined.com/podcast/hr-payroll-20]

Totally Rewarding Chats | Ep. 38: The Debate over Geo Diffs

In this episode, Paul sits down with Laura Cashion to explore the challenges of geographic pay differentials in today’s evolving workforce. Laura shares how organizations define geographic labor markets, the complexities of applying location-based pay strategies, and how remote work continues to reshape compensation decisions. From balancing fairness and competitiveness to navigating employee expectations, this conversation dives into the realities of managing pay across different markets.

Totally Rewarding Chats | Ep. 37: What Pay Costs - The Science of Pay

Sean and Paul sit down with James Seechurn to explore why traditional pay-for-performance models may be doing more harm than good. James shares how incentive-driven cultures can stifle collaboration, limit innovation, and encourage unintended behaviors, while unpacking the psychology behind motivation, fairness, and performance at work. From trust-based reward systems to real-world examples of companies succeeding without traditional incentives, this conversation challenges the way organizations think about pay, purpose, and what truly drives people. Chapters: 00:00 Introduction and Backgrounds 02:53 The Power of Appearance and Presentation 05:56 James A. Seechurn's Journey from Accounting to Consulting 08:51 The Role of Incentives in Performance 11:48 The Debate on Pay for Performance 14:37 Innovation vs. Incentives: A Critical Analysis 19:02 The Role of Collaboration in Performance Pay 22:41 Fairness vs. Motivation in Pay Structures 27:31 Cultural Perspectives on Individual vs. Collective Rewards 30:31 Challenges of Pay-for-Performance Models 33:38 Rethinking Pay Structures for Knowledge Workers 47:34 Navigating the Future of HR Practices

Totally Rewarding Chats | Ep. 36: Live from W@W San Antonio

Sean and Paul sit down with Sam Reeves on the WorldatWork floor to explore how AI and pay transparency are reshaping the future of compensation. Sam shares why data-driven job evaluation methods still matter, how organizations can prepare for growing transparency regulations, and where AI can strengthen compensation strategy without replacing human judgment. From pay equity to total rewards, this conversation covers the trends HR leaders can’t afford to ignore. Chapters: 00:00 Introduction and Background 05:42 The Evolution of AI in Compensation 10:57 Job Evaluation and Pay Transparency 16:10 Communication Challenges in Compensation 21:59 Conclusion and Key Takeaways

Totally Rewarding Chats | Ep. 35: Live from San Antonio; Market Based Pay or Traditional Salary Structures

Sean sits down with Amanda Williamson and surprise guest Katie Stukowski to break down why job architecture is the backbone of effective compensation—and where most organizations miss the mark. Amanda shares how to build job frameworks that actually work in today’s market, from navigating pay transparency to adapting structures with AI-driven data. Learn how to simplify job leveling, manage change without overwhelming your team, and why a hybrid approach to pay is gaining traction. From aligning stakeholders to making your pay philosophy actionable, this conversation is packed with practical strategies to build more transparent, scalable, and defensible compensation programs. Chapters: Introduction and Guest Introduction (0:00) Background and Career Path (1:19) Compensation Strategies (8:49) Session Highlights (9:53) Trends in Compensation (12:33) Job Architecture and Pay Transparency (16:23) Change Management in HR (19:14) Closing Thoughts (25:56)