INTERVIEW | Make Money by Building a Passion into a 630,000-Follower Community with Olivia Levin

CO-HOST | Make Money by Leveraging Opportunities Instead of Complaining About Outcomes

In this episode, Travis and producer Eric dive into a viral controversy surrounding the breakout indie horror film Obsession. After an art director from the film publicly shared her frustrations about earning just over $6,700 on a project that went on to gross hundreds of millions of dollars, the internet erupted into debate. Travis and Eric unpack the realities of risk, reward, compensation, and reputation in creative industries, exploring whether crew members deserve backend participation and how professionals should navigate public criticism when opportunities unexpectedly turn into massive successes. On this episode we talk about: * The viral social media post from an Obsession crew member and the backlash that followed * Why risk and reward are inseparable in filmmaking, entrepreneurship, and investing * Whether film crews should receive backend participation when projects become major hits * The hidden costs and realities of independent film production * How public complaints can impact long-term career opportunities and professional reputation Top 3 Takeaways 1. The people who take the greatest risks typically receive the greatest rewards. Investors, producers, and founders shoulder significant uncertainty, which is why they benefit most when projects succeed. 2. Your biggest opportunity may come after the project, not during it. A successful project can dramatically increase your future earning potential if you leverage the experience effectively. 3. How you communicate frustrations matters. Raising legitimate concerns is important, but the way those concerns are presented can significantly impact how others perceive and work with you. Notable Quotes * "The person who takes the most risk gets the most reward." * "This should be the greatest thing that ever happened to you." * "Be grateful for the things that happen when they go really well, learn from them, and see what you can do better next time." Connect with Travis Chappell: * Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/travischappell [https://www.instagram.com/travischappell] * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travischappell [https://www.linkedin.com/in/travischappell] * Website: https://travischappell.com [https://travischappell.com/] A Word from Our Sponsors: Today's episode is brought to you by our amazing sponsors. Their support helps us continue bringing you conversations and insights designed to help you make more money. Be sure to check out the links in the show notes and support the companies that support the show. - Are you ready to start your own creator journey and make it big? Visit www.fanvue.com [http://www.fanvue.com/] today and launch your career! - To learn more about Mode Mobile and its investor community, go to https://invest.modemobile.com/travismakesmoney [https://invest.modemobile.com/travismakesmoney] -Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis [http://gohighlevel.com/travis] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices [https://megaphone.fm/adchoices]

SOLO | Make Money by Going for "Stupid Goals" - Lessons from my Steve Sims interview

Steve Sims was an entrepreneur, speaker, author, and founder of the luxury concierge company Bluefish, a business that became famous for creating extraordinary experiences for some of the world's wealthiest and most influential people. Dubbed "The Real-Life Wizard of Oz" by Forbes, Steve built a career around making the impossible possible—from arranging private dinners beneath historic landmarks to creating James Bond-style adventures for clients. In this heartfelt episode, Travis reflects on Steve's legacy following his recent passing and shares some of the most impactful lessons he learned from their friendship and conversations over the years. On this episode we talk about: * Why pursuing "stupid" goals can unlock extraordinary opportunities * The connection between passion, authenticity, and personal magnetism * The importance of solitude and self-reflection for entrepreneurs * Building genuine relationships instead of transactional connections * Why criticism and ridicule are often signs you're heading in the right direction Top 3 Takeaways 1. Big, seemingly unrealistic goals force you to think differently and create opportunities that smaller goals never will. Sometimes the fastest path to growth is aiming for something that sounds impossible. 2. When you're genuinely energized by your work, people notice. Passion isn't just fulfilling—it's magnetic and can attract the right clients, partners, and opportunities. 3. The strongest relationships are built on mutual value, trust, and long-term investment. Connections may open doors, but real relationships create lasting impact. Notable Quotes * "Stupid goals are the strategy." * "When you love what you're doing, you're more magnetic." * "They'll always laugh at you just before they applaud." A Word from Our Sponsors: Today's episode is brought to you by our incredible sponsors. Their support allows us to continue bringing you conversations and lessons from some of the world's most successful entrepreneurs, creators, and thought leaders. Be sure to check out the sponsor links in the episode description and support the companies that help make this show possible. - Are you ready to start your own creator journey and make it big? Visit www.fanvue.com [http://www.fanvue.com/] today and launch your career! - To learn more about Mode Mobile and its investor community, go to https://invest.modemobile.com/travismakesmoney [https://invest.modemobile.com/travismakesmoney] -Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis [http://gohighlevel.com/travis] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices [https://megaphone.fm/adchoices]

INTERVIEW | Make Money by Building Software Without Learning to Code with Emmanuel Straschnov

Emmanuel Straschnov is the co-founder and former CEO of Bubble, one of the pioneers of the no-code movement. After graduating from Harvard, Emmanuel set out to democratize software creation by making it possible for anyone—regardless of technical background—to build applications. Self-taught in coding, he built Bubble around a simple but powerful belief: humans shouldn't have to learn a computer's language; computers should understand ours. Today, Bubble powers thousands of businesses and has helped entrepreneurs around the world turn ideas into reality without writing code. On this episode we talk about: * How Emmanuel turned a $50 customer check into validation for a billion-dollar idea * Why qualitative customer conversations beat massive amounts of user data in the early stages * The evolution of no-code tools and how AI is accelerating software creation * How entrepreneurs can identify real problems before falling in love with solutions * Building a successful business without raising venture capital—and when Emmanuel eventually decided to raise over $100 million Top 3 Takeaways 1. Talk to users before scaling. A handful of deep conversations with customers can provide more valuable product insights than thousands of anonymous analytics events. 2. Solve problems, not ideas. Entrepreneurs often become attached to products when they should be obsessed with the problems they're trying to solve. 3. The barriers to building software are disappearing. With no-code tools and AI, entrepreneurs can launch products faster and cheaper than ever before, making validation easier than at any point in history. Notable Quotes * "The right startup ideas are the ideas where someone is willing to give you money for a very crappy version of your product." * "Humans shouldn't have to learn a computer's language. The computer should understand their language." * "I've always felt that technology should open opportunities to people and remove barriers for people to try things." Connect with Emmanuel Straschnov: * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/straschnov/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/straschnov/] * Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/emstnv/ [https://www.instagram.com/emstnv/] * Bubble: https://bubble.io [https://bubble.io/] * Email: emmanuel@bubble.io [emmanuel@bubble.io] A Word from Our Sponsors: Today's episode is brought to you by our incredible sponsors. Their support allows us to continue bringing you conversations with world-class entrepreneurs, founders, and investors who are sharing practical strategies to help you make more money. Check out the links in the show notes to learn more about the products and services that support the show. - Are you ready to start your own creator journey and make it big? Visit www.fanvue.com [http://www.fanvue.com/] today and launch your career! - To learn more about Mode Mobile and its investor community, go to https://invest.modemobile.com/travismakesmoney [https://invest.modemobile.com/travismakesmoney] -Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis [http://gohighlevel.com/travis] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices [https://megaphone.fm/adchoices]

CO-HOST | Make Money by Ignoring Haters and Building a Loyal Audience

In this episode, Travis is joined by producer Eric to discuss a challenge every creator, entrepreneur, and business owner faces: dealing with criticism. From angry social media comments and controversial takes to building an audience that genuinely resonates with your message, Travis and Eric explore what it means to create in public. Drawing on examples from podcasting, social media, and conversations with top creators like Graham Stephan, they share practical insights on handling feedback, filtering criticism, and staying focused on long-term growth. On this episode we talk about: * How to deal with criticism and negativity on social media * Why creators should pay attention to comments in the early stages * The difference between constructive feedback and random internet noise * Building a community that advocates for you * Why trying to please everyone online is a losing game Top 3 Takeaways 1. If you're building a brand or audience, you can't afford to ignore comments completely. Early engagement helps you understand your audience and improve your content. 2. Not all criticism deserves equal weight. Feedback from trusted sources and people who know your work matters far more than random negativity from strangers online. 3. Consistency builds community. When you show up authentically over time, your audience begins to understand your message and often defends it better than you can. Notable Quotes * "You gotta do what doesn't scale in order to be able to scale." * "You don't get paid for the amount of hours you work—you get paid for the amount of value you bring." * "Money only solves your money problems, but it's easier to solve the rest of your problems when you have some money in the bank." Connect with Travis Chappell: * Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/travischappell [https://www.instagram.com/travischappell] * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travischappell [https://www.linkedin.com/in/travischappell] * Other: https://travischappell.com [https://travischappell.com/] A Word from Our Sponsors: Today's episode is brought to you by our incredible sponsors. Their support allows us to continue bringing you actionable conversations and practical lessons designed to help you make more money, build better relationships, and create a life on your own terms. Be sure to check out our sponsors using the links in the episode description. - Are you ready to start your own creator journey and make it big? Visit www.fanvue.com [http://www.fanvue.com/] today and launch your career! - To learn more about Mode Mobile and its investor community, go to https://invest.modemobile.com/travismakesmoney [https://invest.modemobile.com/travismakesmoney] -Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis [http://gohighlevel.com/travis] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices [https://megaphone.fm/adchoices]

INTERVIEW | Make Money by Building a Passion into a 630,000-Follower Community with Olivia Levin

Olivia Levin is a digital entrepreneur, content creator, and founder of Swifties for Eternity, one of the largest fan-driven Taylor Swift communities online with more than 630,000 followers. What began as a Tumblr account she started at age 13 evolved into a thriving business built on community, content creation, brand partnerships, and consulting. Olivia is also the New York Times and USA Today bestselling author of The Story of Us: How the Taylor Swift Fandom Changed Our Lives. Her journey demonstrates how passion, consistency, and authentic audience-building can eventually lead to meaningful income and career opportunities. On this episode we talk about: * How Olivia grew a fan account into a platform with over 630,000 followers * Why it took more than a decade of consistency before seeing explosive growth * Creative ways to monetize niche audiences through brand deals and subscriptions * The importance of authenticity and showing your personality online * How Olivia landed a book deal and became a bestselling author Top 3 Takeaways 1. Most successful creators spend years building their audience before experiencing breakthrough growth. Consistency and patience often matter more than short-term results. 2. Authenticity is one of the most valuable assets a creator can have. Audiences connect with genuine passion far more than content designed solely to perform well. 3. Building a community creates opportunities beyond content creation, including brand partnerships, consulting, products, subscriptions, and publishing deals. Notable Quotes * "You can pretty much turn any passion that you have into some sort of at least side hustle to make money." * "If you feel like you're forcing something or being performative because you think it's going to do well, people can see right through it." * "Find within yourself the reason why you started the page in the first place and the reason why you're passionate about what you're talking about." Connect with Olivia Levin: * Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/swiftiesforeternity [https://www.instagram.com/swiftiesforeternity] * Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/olivialevinn/ * Other: The Story of Us: How the Taylor Swift Fandom Changed Our Lives (available wherever books are sold) A Word from Our Sponsors: - Are you ready to start your own creator journey and make it big? Visit www.fanvue.com [http://www.fanvue.com/] today and launch your career! - To learn more about Mode Mobile and its investor community, go to https://invest.modemobile.com/travismakesmoney [https://invest.modemobile.com/travismakesmoney] -Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis [http://gohighlevel.com/travis] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices [https://megaphone.fm/adchoices]