TRENCHES with Milan Terez

The Future of Clean Beauty: Michelle Doan on Scaling a Clean Beauty Brand Internationally, Korean Fermentation Tech, and 20 Years in the Beauty Industry

In this inspiring interview, Michelle Doan tells us what does two decades in the beauty industry actually teach you about building a brand that lasts? In this episode of TRENCHES host Milan Terez goes deep with Michelle Doan, founder of Emani Cosmetics, on what it takes to scale a clean beauty brand internationally in one of the most competitive markets in the world. Michelle breaks down the full product development playbook: including the three P's of skincare (Potency, Delivery, and Provenance), innovations in Korean fermentation technology, and how the beauty industry has evolved over 20 years. From surviving a Thai refugee camp to building a globally recognized clean beauty brand, Michelle's story is equal parts tactical and deeply human. If you're a beauty founder, a product developer, or someone building in a saturated market, this episode is for you. Key Takeaways Michelle Doan's personal journey and resilienceThe evolution of the beauty industry over two decadesThe three P's of skincare: Potency, Delivery, ProvenanceInnovations in Korean fermentation technologyStrategies for scaling a beauty brand internationally Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Beyond the Trenches01:32 Michelle Doan's Journey: From Struggles to Success08:41 The Birth of Emani Cosmetics14:37 Navigating the Beauty Industry as a Founder18:03 The Evolution of Clean Beauty19:51 Understanding the Three P's of Skincare24:43 The Science of Korean Fermentation Technology28:03 Adapting and Reformulating Products30:18 The Art of Product Development32:03 Navigating the Beauty Industry: A Founder's Guide35:05 Sustainability in Beauty: Why Packaging Matters39:18 Scaling and Distribution: The Modern Landscape43:01 From Zero to One: Key Changes for Growth49:34 International Expansion: Timing and Strategy51:52 The Future of Cosmetics: Personalization and Education52:57 How to be an Affective Leader55:01 Understanding Hormones and Skincare57:40 Self-Care for Founders: Recognizing the Signs of Breakthrough59:47 Embracing Positivity and Perspective01:02:10 Overcoming Adversity and Building Self-Worth01:05:32 The Power of Presence and Gratitude Connect With Us:Our Guest: Michelle DoanLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelle-doan-emani/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelle-doan-emani/] Guest Brand - Emani CosmeticsInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/emanicosmetics [https://www.instagram.com/emanicosmetics]Website: https://emani.com [https://emani.com] Our Host: Milan TerezInstagram:   / milanterez [https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbTVHaHVaRTYyMzE1ai1taVlNaGs1eVVHTWpTQXxBQ3Jtc0ttTWZWYVNRSXl6RGRhWlV3MVMxRDk1UWFPX0E3VlMyRHM5ZjUyNlRXeF9MWnNYQjk4UE1KbVBRZkEzeW9McVdNa2d6cUFzQzZ6bVBiY2lTdWlOamM2X2dPQjRQdHNXb2c5bGZsajlWdlZfRF83LU5QYw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.instagram.com%2Fmilanterez%2F&v=q3BXoj4v-aM]   ⁠⁠TikTok: ⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/milanterez [https://www.tiktok.com/milanterez] ⁠ TRENCHES with Milan TerezInstagram: ⁠⁠  / trenchesthepodcast [https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqa3QzM0lTcm9mVGVEWmNyZVdnNXFtclBmZnB2UXxBQ3Jtc0trNlgwSjFxOVJQYXdLWVpxUldYVGg5ZkhxVnhJdlFONW1TTmpyOE9JSFJYWDNZbW9udTU5NzFlZG8ycUU2YXZNY3J4b1lsY0pJMnk3TFpRMWktOEU2ZDNONEVxOERXVWdmUGZiTkRQRTd2bEhDcHFVbw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.instagram.com%2Ftrenchesthepodcast%2F&v=q3BXoj4v-aM]  TikTok: ⁠⁠ ⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/trenchesthepod [https://www.tiktok.com/trenchesthepod]... entrepreneurship, women in business, CPG brands, building a business, Michelle Doan, Emani Cosmetics, beauty brand, entrepreneurship, success, scaling, marketing, personal growth, Beauty industry, clean beauty, product development, scaling, sustainability, Korean fermentation, entrepreneurship, women founders, skincare, international expansion

Digging Deeper with Michelle Doan (Founder of Emani Cosmetics) | TRENCHES Rapid Fire

In this episode of Beyond the Trenches Digging Deeper, What does it take to build a successful beauty brand when you started with nothing and we mean nothing? In this episode of TRENCHES, host Milan Terez sits down with Michelle Doan, founder of Emani Cosmetics, who shares her remarkable journey from surviving a Thai refugee camp to scaling a recognized beauty brand. Michelle gets real about what sustainable brand growth actually looks like: why she stopped bottomless spending on paid marketing, how she shifted to genuine content that converts, and what working smarter not harder has meant for her business and her life. If you're a beauty founder, a first-generation entrepreneur, or someone building a brand on resilience and purpose, this episode is for you. Key Takeaways Success is not overnight; it requires persistence and strategic effort.Working smarter, not harder, is key to sustainable growth.Avoid bottomless spending on marketing; focus on genuine content.Balance and self-care are crucial for long-term success.Interior design is a personal passion that fosters creativity. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Beyond the Trenches01:32 Welcome to Digging Deeper with Michelle Doan02:04 How to Stay Committed02:41 Overnight Success02:54 Working Hard or Hardly Working03:29 Overspending on Meta Ads04:00 How to Scale a Beauty Brand04:11 Are Marketing Agencies a SCAM?04:45 Life Passions and Hobbies Connect With Us:Our Guest: Michelle DoanLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelle-doan-emani/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelle-doan-emani/] Guest Brand - Emani CosmeticsInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/emanicosmetics [https://www.instagram.com/emanicosmetics]Website: https://emani.com [https://emani.com] Our Host: Milan TerezInstagram:   / milanterez [https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbTVHaHVaRTYyMzE1ai1taVlNaGs1eVVHTWpTQXxBQ3Jtc0ttTWZWYVNRSXl6RGRhWlV3MVMxRDk1UWFPX0E3VlMyRHM5ZjUyNlRXeF9MWnNYQjk4UE1KbVBRZkEzeW9McVdNa2d6cUFzQzZ6bVBiY2lTdWlOamM2X2dPQjRQdHNXb2c5bGZsajlWdlZfRF83LU5QYw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.instagram.com%2Fmilanterez%2F&v=q3BXoj4v-aM]   ⁠⁠TikTok: ⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/milanterez [https://www.tiktok.com/milanterez] ⁠ TRENCHES with Milan TerezInstagram: ⁠⁠  / trenchesthepodcast [https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqa3QzM0lTcm9mVGVEWmNyZVdnNXFtclBmZnB2UXxBQ3Jtc0trNlgwSjFxOVJQYXdLWVpxUldYVGg5ZkhxVnhJdlFONW1TTmpyOE9JSFJYWDNZbW9udTU5NzFlZG8ycUU2YXZNY3J4b1lsY0pJMnk3TFpRMWktOEU2ZDNONEVxOERXVWdmUGZiTkRQRTd2bEhDcHFVbw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.instagram.com%2Ftrenchesthepodcast%2F&v=q3BXoj4v-aM]  TikTok: ⁠⁠ ⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/trenchesthepod [https://www.tiktok.com/trenchesthepod]... entrepreneurship, women in business, CPG brands, building a business, Michelle Doan, Emani Cosmetics, beauty brand, entrepreneurship, success, scaling, marketing, personal growth

How Bonding Over Books Is Tackling Loneliness One Conversation Game at a Time | TRENCHES with Milan Terez

What happens when a marketing career in NYC leaves you craving real connection and you decide to build the solution yourself? In this episode of TRENCHES with MTN, host Milan Terez sits down with Sarah Dalley, founder of Bonding Over Books, a community-building conversation game designed to reduce loneliness and spark meaningful connection. Sarah breaks down the full founder journey: product development and physical product validation, retail strategy, funding through community programs, and what it actually takes to build a purpose-driven brand from scratch. If you're a founder building around a social mission, navigating funding for a physical product, or just trying to make something that genuinely matters — this episode is for you. Key Takeaways Journey from marketing to entrepreneurship Creating a community-focused product Funding and retail strategy for physical products Product testing and validation Funding through community programs Building a brand with purpose Chapters 00:00 Welcome to TRENCHES with Milan Terez 01:23 The Journey to Bonding Over Books 02:44 What It's Like Working in Lifecycle Marketing 03:49 When Moving Home is the RIGHT Move 06:00 Navigating Life Changes and Community Building 09:06 The Light Bulb Moment for Bonding Over Books 14:43 Defining 'All In' as an Entrepreneur 18:55 Tips for Starting a Service-Based Side Hustle 23:17 Funding the Initial Product Development 26:11 The Role of Pre-Orders in Product Launch 29:40 Key Lessons for Founders of Physical Products 34:55 How to Create a Card Game40:33 Mental Health Advocacy Through Connection 42:42 Leveraging Events for Brand Visibility 45:03 How to Get Your Brand Stocked in Barnes & Nobles and Paper Source 49:47 Essential Tools for Solopreneurs 53:03 How to Build a Mission Driven Brand 54:45 Building Meaningful Connections 56:52 Top Conversation Starters 01:00:45 The Mission Behind the Brand 01:01:23 Future Aspirations and Growth 01:02:47 Advice for Aspiring Entrepreneurs ResourcesSquarespace - https://www.squarespace.com [https://www.squarespace.com] FAIRE Wholesale Platform - https://www.faire.com [https://www.faire.com] BookCon - https://www.bookcon.com [https://www.bookcon.com] Bas Blue Detroit - https://basblueus.com/the-basblue-foundation/zero-to-one/ [https://basblueus.com/the-basblue-foundation/zero-to-one/] Connect With Us: Our Guest: Sarah Dalley Guest Brand - Bonding Over Books Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/bondingoverbooks/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@bondingoverbooks [https://www.tiktok.com/@bondingoverbooks] Bonding Over Books Official Website: https://bondingoverbooks.co [https://bondingoverbooks.co] Our Host: Milan Terez Instagram: ⁠/ milanterez⁠ ⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/milanterez⁠ ⁠ TRENCHES with Milan Terez Instagram: ⁠⁠ ⁠/ trenchesthepodcast⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/trenchesthepod⁠cast Book clubs, community building, product development, mental health, entrepreneurship, bonding over books, game design, retail strategy, startup funding

Digging Deeper with Sarah Dalley (Founder of Bonding Over Books) | TRENCHES Rapid Fire

What does it look like to build a community-focused product brand organically without a big budget, without outside funding, and without pretending it's easy? In this episode of TRENCHES with Milan Terez, host Milan Terez sits down with Sarah Dalley, founder of Bonding Over Books, a conversation game designed to bring people together through reading and real connection. Sarah opens up about the real cost of branding as a first-time founder, unlearning perfectionism, navigating entrepreneurial mistakes, and how spirituality and personal growth have shaped the way she builds. If you're a founder, a book lover, or someone building a community-driven brand from scratch — this one's for you. Key TakeawaysBuilding Bonding Over Books as an organic community toolLessons learned from entrepreneurial challenges and mistakesThe importance of authenticity and unlearning perfectionismBalancing personal life, spirituality, and business growthStrategies for decision-making and managing stress in startups Chapters00:00 Welcome to TRENCHES with Milan Terez00:39 Digging Deeper with Sarah Dalley00:58 The Morning Show01:50 Olivia Dean02:53 Spirituality & Guides03:25 Wedding Planning & Pop-up Events04:21 It's NOT Easy to Start a Business05:09 Branding is Expensive06:15 Get An Emotional Support Dog06:54 How to Fight Perfectionism08:22 Reading To Stay Grounded08:55 More Businesses Coming Soon11:01 Thank You Sarah Dalley Connect With Us:Our Guest: Sarah Dalley Guest Brand - Bonding Over Books Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/bondingoverbooks/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@bondingoverbooks [https://www.tiktok.com/@bondingoverbooks]Bonding Over Books Official Website: https://bondingoverbooks.co [https://bondingoverbooks.co] Our Host: Milan TerezInstagram: ⁠/ milanterez⁠ ⁠⁠TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/milanterez⁠ ⁠ TRENCHES with Milan TerezInstagram: ⁠⁠ ⁠/ trenchesthepodcast⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/trenchesthepod⁠cast Bonding Over Books, entrepreneurship, community building, mental health, book clubs, personal growth, spirituality, decision-making, branding, podcasting

From Shy to Confident: How Haley Fritz's Launched Breezy's Nasal Strips into Major Retailers

What does it take to get your product into Urban Outfitters and Anthropologie while still clocking in at a full-time job in the film industry? In this episode of TRENCHES with MTN, host Milan Terez sits down with Haley Fritz, founder of Breezy's Nasal Strips, to break down exactly how she did it. From finding a manufacturer and navigating the packaging design process, to landing major retail partnerships, scaling on TikTok Shop, and selling on Amazon. Haley gives the full behind-the-scenes playbook on building a physical product brand from scratch in your 20s. If you're a first-time founder, a side-hustle entrepreneur, or trying to get a consumer product into retail doors, this one's for you. Key Takeaways - Balancing a full-time job and entrepreneurship - Product development and manufacturing process - Retail and Amazon sales strategies - Getting a brand into Urban Outfitters and Anthropologie - Getting started on TikTok Shop and TikTok Love Chapters 00:00 Welcome to TRENCHES with Milan Terez01:16 Meet Haley Fritz Founder of Breezy's02:18 Haley's Life Before Starting a Business03:42 Growing Up with Entrepreneurial Parents05:54 Lessons from a Family of Business Owners09:12 How to Decide Which Business Idea to Start11:27 How Do Nasal Strips Work12:23 How to Make a Physical Product13:18 Product Development and Finding a Manufacturer15:46 Starting the Packaging & Design Process17:48 Starting a Creative Business19:14 What is a Fright Forwarder and How to Find a Freight Forwarder23:02 Retail Partnerships with Urban Outfitters & Anthropologie24:00 Advice for Getting into Retailers25:04 How to Get Your Product into Retail Doors26:18 Packaging for Retail versus E-commerce29:20 Scaling Strategies for Growth and Revenue30:55 Getting Started on TikTok Shop33:11 What is Your Business Tech Stack34:35 Shopify Email Marketing and Rella for Social Media Tools37:07 Mental Health and Entrepreneurship39:23 Building in Public and Community Engagement42:57 Balancing a Full-Time Job and Entrepreneurship44:43 Building Accountability and Discipline45:25 The Experience of Young Female Founders47:41 Taking Risks in Your 20s49:02 Taking Breaks, Days Off, and Battling Imposter Syndrome50:29 Future Aspirations for Breezy's51:33 Haley's Parting Advice to Founders53:24 See You Next Episode Connect With Us:Our Guest - Haley Fritz Guest Brand - Breezy’sInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/breezystrips/ [https://www.instagram.com/breezystrips/] TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@breezy_strips?_t=ZP-8wM7N0QImGl&_r=1 [https://www.tiktok.com/@breezy_strips?_t=ZP-8wM7N0QImGl&_r=1]Breezy’s Official Website - https://www.breezystrips.com [https://www.breezystrips.com] Our Host: Milan TerezInstagram -   / milanterez [https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqa0RrU2tMRVhwdGRRMTg3MXZHUjNiYTd2bmpGUXxBQ3Jtc0tuQ1FlaWxucHFGejBoWnVjNnVHQWhVcVZHVy1sbXlwa1Y0LVp2Q3U2cUZkTExpZXktSnQ5aklJZC03QWxKQ0s3QUJIeVBCdjJOcmZJX0NWNUl0RlZCUEFaWkMyS1cwc3FjSmRxNFo1MEhDR1RYWmlSNA&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.instagram.com%2Fmilanterez%2F&v=bNlyseVz5kA]   ⁠⁠TikTok - ⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/milanterez [https://www.tiktok.com/milanterez] ⁠ TRENCHES with Milan TerezInstagram - ⁠⁠  / trenchesthepodcast [https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqa3V1UVR2YUNySlc4Z0tUQ2VybUM1SU16SDlTZ3xBQ3Jtc0trYzNXYWpyQ1FCejdkeGZNVFBOc29aUzBVMlp4bENhUlp1emNBaV9vQnVYSjJfa2JaWThLMGNMUl9aMWdiOGdOQW1rbHNuanJTSjlVaHgzZVZPT1RNanVJS1dXQUdRSW5qbUFmUlZOaWptRmxQSnNrSQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.instagram.com%2Ftrenchesthepodcast%2F&v=bNlyseVz5kA]  TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/trenchesthepod [https://www.tiktok.com/trenchesthepod]... Entrepreneurship, Product Development, Retail, Social Media, Balance, Breezy's Nasal Strips, Founder Tips, Scaling a Business, CPG, Female Founder