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Unrelating with Kel & Michelle

Podcast by Kel & Michelle

English

Health & personal development

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About Unrelating with Kel & Michelle

Unrelating is an all new podcast that explores relationships, why we do what we do, and what causes people to "un-relate". Join Kelly & Michelle as they talk to real people about the relationship challenges they face and provide an expert to help them sort it all out.Unrelating is hosted by show producer Kelly Beck and relationship expert Michelle Schafer. Michelle is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist who has been providing individual and couple’s therapy for two decades.  Michelle has her Bachelor’s degree in Biopsychology and Cognitive Science from the University of Michigan and a Master’s in Clinical Psychology, with an emphasis in Marriage and Family Therapy, from Pepperdine. Through her practice, she has seen patterns and themes that connect us as people. Her scientific background will help us learn about the brain mechanisms that influence our behavior.  And her psychology background will help us figure out if we should continue in the relationships we’re in!Follow us on Instagram @unrelatingpocast and be sure to download us on Apple, iHeart, Spotify, Youtube, or wherever you get your podcasts! And if you have a question, comment or would like to be a guest on the show, email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com

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87 episodes

episode Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 47 Deep Dive: Reimagining The Root Cause artwork

Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 47 Deep Dive: Reimagining The Root Cause

In this deep dive for Unrelating With Kel & Michelle featuring Mark Michaels, Michelle discusses how early relationships impact our attachment to others. In his preprint BINARIES, MULTITUDES, AND BEYOND, available now at markamichaels.com [http://markamichaels.com/], Mark focuses the lens on his own journey and uses narrative analysis and critique to explore how authority, expertise, and healing are currently defined. https://markamichaels.com/ [https://markamichaels.com/] To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest, email us at  theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com [theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com]. Follow us on Instagram; https://www.instagram.com/unrelatingpodcast/ [https://www.instagram.com/unrelatingpodcast/] And download and listen to Unrelating on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, Youtube or wherever you get your podcasts! https://www.unrelatingwithkelandmichelle.com/ [https://unrelatingwithkelandmichelle.buzzsprout.com/] Support the show [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2408957/support]

15 May 2026 - 4 min
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Reimagining Therapy

Ready to reimagine how you’re approaching therapy? Kel and Michelle sit down with writer and conceptual artist Mark Michaels to discuss the problems with traditional therapy and why people may feel disillusioned, both the benefits and the limitations of alternative approaches like psychedelics and A.I. assisted therapy, and how growing up in the 1970’s New York punk scene influenced his work, life, and therapeutic journey.  In his preprint BINARIES, MULTITUDES, AND BEYOND, available now at markamichaels.com [http://markamichaels.com/], Mark focuses the lens on his own journey and uses narrative analysis and critique to explore how authority, expertise, and healing are currently defined. https://markamichaels.com/ [https://markamichaels.com/] To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest, email us at  theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com [theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com]. Follow us on Instagram; https://www.instagram.com/unrelatingpodcast/ [https://www.instagram.com/unrelatingpodcast/] And download and listen to Unrelating on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, Youtube or wherever you get your podcasts! https://www.unrelatingwithkelandmichelle.com/ [https://unrelatingwithkelandmichelle.buzzsprout.com/] Support the show [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2408957/support]

13 May 2026 - 1 h 6 min
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Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 46 Deep Dive: Are You Just a Teenage Dirtbag, Baby?

On this week's deep dive of Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 46 with Meehika Barua, Michelle reflects on how young people are having to navigate the world these days. Meehika Barua can be reached at @meehikabarua [https://twitter.com/meehikabarua?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor]. To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest, email us at  theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com [theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com]. Follow us on Instagram; https://www.instagram.com/unrelatingpodcast/ [https://www.instagram.com/unrelatingpodcast/] And download and listen to Unrelating on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, Youtube or wherever you get your podcasts! https://www.unrelatingwithkelandmichelle.com/ [https://unrelatingwithkelandmichelle.buzzsprout.com/] Support the show [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2408957/support]

1 May 2026 - 3 min
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Are You Just A Placeholder?

Kel and Michelle sit down for a candid and eye-opening conversation with writer Meehika Barua about placeholder partners, why people stay in relationships when their partners show no signs of commitment, when to set the proper dating boundaries and be more selective, and how you can recognize if you’re a placeholder partner or friend to someone else.  Meehika Barua can be reached at @meehikabarua [https://twitter.com/meehikabarua?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor]. To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest, email us at  theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com [theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com]. Follow us on Instagram; https://www.instagram.com/unrelatingpodcast/ [https://www.instagram.com/unrelatingpodcast/] And download and listen to Unrelating on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, Youtube or wherever you get your podcasts! https://www.unrelatingwithkelandmichelle.com/ [https://unrelatingwithkelandmichelle.buzzsprout.com/] Support the show [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2408957/support]

29 Apr 2026 - 1 h 0 min
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