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A documentary filmmaker in conversation - on the page or on the screen - uncovering the stories, perspectives & insights of people doing fascinating work in their different corners of culture, science & society. Mostly linked to areas I'm exploring in my own creative endeavours. vickilesley.substack.com

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episode FALLOUT - the first Greenham Common novel | Live with Vicki Lesley & Eleanor Anstruther artwork

FALLOUT - the first Greenham Common novel | Live with Vicki Lesley & Eleanor Anstruther

Thank you Francesca Bossert [https://substack.com/profile/133850561-francesca-bossert], Helen Poore [https://substack.com/profile/107077437-helen-poore], and many others for tuning into my live video with Eleanor Anstruther [https://substack.com/profile/92328611-eleanor-anstruther]! This was such a great conversation and I can’t recommend highly enough that you go out and snap up a copy of Eleanor’s new book forthwith. And in the meantime, here’s a feast of links to various things we talked about, starting with a very timely webinar I will be taking part in next month which it would be great to see you at. From Bombs to Data Centres: the Face of Nuclear Colonialism Free online webinar with Western Shoshone Principal Man Ian Zabarte 13th May 2026, 7-8.30pm BST Books * Fallout [https://bookshop.org/a/93729/9798999527035]- Eleanor’s brand new novel published this week in both the UK & US by Empress Editions * Righteous Anger [https://www.amazon.co.uk/Righteous-Anger-Juley-Howard/dp/1786977524] - non-fiction account of life at Greenham by Juley Howard & Faith Moulin * The Intelligent Woman’s Guide to Atomic Radiation [https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intelligent-Womans-Radiation-Penguin-Special/dp/B000OGNSTA] https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intelligent-Womans-Radiation-Penguin-Special/dp/B000OGNSTA- 1964 mass-market non-fiction book outlining the scientific & political context of radiation at the height of atmospheric weapons testing * Command & Control [https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/56632/command-and-control-by-schlosser-eric/9780141037912] https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/56632/command-and-control-by-schlosser-eric/9780141037912- Eric Schlosser’s book on atomic weapons accidents & near misses Films * The March to Aldermaston [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmEpWi_XhVQ] - 1958 Lindsay Anderson film (featuring a cameo by Eleanor’s own mother!) * Gentle, Angry Women [https://www.folklifefilms.co.uk/gentle-angry-women] - 2025 documentary by Barbara Santi bringing together veteran Greenham campaigners with a group of young female activists campaigning today * Threads [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090163/]- 1984 British TV movie about an atomic bomb dropping on Sheffield, set to be remade by the producers of the recent Netflix series Adolescence * Barefoot Gen [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085218/?ref_=fn_t_1] - 1983 Japanese anime about the bomb at Hiroshima from the point of view of a 6 year old boy * The Atom: A Love Affair [http://theatomfilm.com] http://theatomfilm.com- sneaky plug for my own film, currently streaming on Netflix [https://www.netflix.com/gb/title/81409029] & Disney+ [https://www.disneyplus.com/en-gb/movies/atom-the-a-love-affair/4TqtevLnIZSe] Plays * Nye [https://www.nationaltheatre.org.uk/productions/nye/] - 2024 National Theatre play about the founder of the NHS, Nye Bevan * John Proctor is the Villain [https://royalcourttheatre.com/events/john-proctor-is-the-villain/] - currently playing at the Royal Court in London (Eleanor wrote about it here [https://substack.com/@eleanoranstruther/p-194669335]) * A Family Business: How Not To Blow Up The Planet [https://chinaplatetheatre.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/A-Family-Business-Pack-2023.pdf] - 2024 touring show written & performed by Chris Thorpe Other interviews * Eleanor talking to the BBC about [https://alisakennedyjones.substack.com/p/empress-eleanor-live-on-bbc-sounds]Fallout [https://alisakennedyjones.substack.com/p/empress-eleanor-live-on-bbc-sounds] https://alisakennedyjones.substack.com/p/empress-eleanor-live-on-bbc-sounds(link via THE EMPRESS [null] ) * Eleanor’s interview with [https://guildford-dragon.com/dragon-interview-its-like-nothing-thats-ever-happened-before-author-eleanor-anstruther-on-greenham-common/] Esme Campbell [https://substack.com/profile/327016233-esme-campbell] (the only person under 30 she knows who’s even heard of Greenham Common!) * Eleanor’s conversation on equity with Angie Browne [https://eleanoranstruther.substack.com/p/in-conversation-with-angie-browne] Get full access to Vicki Lesley is... Documental at vickilesley.substack.com/subscribe [https://vickilesley.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]

23 Apr 2026 - 1 h 3 min
episode The Draughtsman's Contract | Live with Vicki Lesley & Luke Honey artwork

The Draughtsman's Contract | Live with Vicki Lesley & Luke Honey

Thank you to everyone who tuned in live today (and apologies that Luke’s video has a bit of a lag - we aren’t quite sure why - but the audio is perfect so shouldn’t affect your enjoyment at all.) A time of writing, you can watch The Draughtsman’s Contract https://player.bfi.org.uk/subscription/film/watch-the-draughtsmans-contract-1982-onlineon the BFI Player [https://player.bfi.org.uk/subscription/film/watch-the-draughtsmans-contract-1982-online]with a subscription (possibly geo-blocked within the UK, I’m not 100% sure). Plus there are 14 of his early short films [https://player.bfi.org.uk/free/collection/peter-greenaway-shorts] available to watch there for free - including the one I talked about with his alter-ego Tulse Luper, Vertical Measures Remake [https://player.bfi.org.uk/free/film/watch-vertical-features-remake-1978-online]. Peter Greenaway has given many interviews about the film over the years - around the time of its original release, for the 20th anniversary and again for the 40th anniversary remastering in 2022 - so there’s lots more to get stuck into if you’d like to hear from the puppet master himself..! This was so much fun - huge thanks to Luke. Do let us know what you thought of the conversation and if you want to drop any thoughts or comments on this film or indeed others we might talk about next, we’d love to hear them. Get full access to Vicki Lesley is... Documental at vickilesley.substack.com/subscribe [https://vickilesley.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]

13 Apr 2026 - 59 min
episode From crisis & confusion to radical clarity artwork

From crisis & confusion to radical clarity

Hi! Thanks for joining me on honest tour through my month just gone, as I embark on my next chapter after years spent making my debut feature documentary, whilst also navigating perimenopause (me) and autism (my son). Expect headaches, hang-ups and a whole lot of heart. If you enjoy my writing, do feel free to leave a comment. And of course I’d love it if you’d consider subscribing to get all my posts delivered straight to your inbox or the Substack app 😊 In the spirit of not burying the lede, let me cut straight to the main takeaway of today’s post: I’ve decided to move The Film Thread to a free model, with no paywalls going forward and my previously paywalled essays gradually made available for everyone to read. I’ll send out a separate email in a couple of days with all the practical details of what season 2 is going to look like now - and how you can still support me if you’d like to - but in the meantime, if you want to hear the unvarnished story of how and why I came to this decision, then read on. Plus, as always I’ve included some of my top work wins for the month. And stay tuned right to the end for a quick Chernobyl-related announcement. Hi friends, As I write, I’m looking out my window at the city below, blanketed in a dense, white mist. Yes, you might accuse the weather gods of being a bit obvious, but still, I can’t help but see it as a metaphor for how the last month has felt: a heavy, foggy layer that was becoming harder and harder to trudge my way through. I’ll expand on what I mean by that in a moment, but before you worry about me, I’m out the other side now. Just as being up here atop the steep hill we’re lucky enough to live on affords me a spacious view across and above the mist, I’ve managed to find some-much needed perspective on the weight (much of it self-inflicted) I could feel building up and bearing down on me these past few weeks. And I’ve made a big decision that in a stroke has lightened the load. Let me explain. As you’ll likely know, at the end of January, we reached the end of the first season in what became my overarching creative project of 2025 - my lovingly-conceived and executed online film club, The Film Thread. And three weeks ago I announced our all-new second season for 2026, looking at autism on film. I was supposed to be announcing the first film in the season last week. But I didn’t. So what happened? Well, there’s both a professional and a personal answer to that, though in reality those two things can’t really be disentangled, at least not for me in this moment of life. As I wrote about in my last post [https://vickilesley.substack.com/p/this-one-begins-at-home], the reason I chose autism as the topic for the new season of the film club is precisely because it’s something we’re living with in my own family - my son is diagnosed and as our daughter is getting older, it’s something we’ve begun to think and talk about in relation to her too (though hers is definitely not the same journey as his). Both of them are navigating very real challenges and they need me to be not just physically present but fully emotionally and mentally available. Sometimes the challenges spill out beyond the non-school hours when parenting them is my main job into the time I’ve allocated for working. That happened just this week - albeit a little more dramatically than usual: What that means is that I have to be pragmatic and realistic about how much work I try to cram into those allotted work hours. But if you’ve been here a while, you might have got the sense that I’m not naturally a streamlined, bish-bash-bosh kinda gal. I mean, I’m someone who took 10 years to make one film! There’s a reason the original title for this publication was Meandering over the Pebbles, not Swiftly Channelled Down the Nearest Outlet Pipe... I love learning and burrowing down research rabbit holes to ferret out the most fascinating information to share. This - I hope - results in work that earns its right to your attention. But it also takes me a loooooong time! I also have a tendency to run away with myself in coming up with all kinds of cool ideas that I get super excited about - but massively underestimate what will be involved in actually bringing them into being. And honestly, that’s what’s happened with The Film Thread. TRUTH BOMB TIME! Yep, this is the moment where I ‘fess up about the realisation that hit me over the past couple of weeks, as I felt that dead weight of a promise growing harder and harder to fulfil... If you were here for the first season, you’ll know that on top of the work that went into curating the full programme of 6 feature films plus companion shorts, each month I was researching and writing a long (4000+ word) in-depth primer essay as well as hosting a live Zoom call with a different special guest invited to each one. This was a LOT of work, but it was made relatively easier by the fact that I’d spent a decade and more immersed in the world of atomic issues. The same is not true for the world of autism and as my preparation went on through February, it became clearer and clearer that I’d bitten off much more than I could chew. At first I just thought I needed to delay my planned launch. But as I looked at the months ahead and tried to actually imagine fitting in all the work I’d set myself for the film club AND making progress with the other major pieces of work that are my focus for the year AND being there for my kids.... well, I just couldn’t. I’d hit a wall and felt paralysed to press on, but also embarrassed to admit it, especially having already hit the go button on launching season 2. So I paused. I journaled. I talked to my partner. And I had an incredibly clarifying conversation with the wonderful Laura Oldfield [https://substack.com/profile/19373495-laura-oldfield] who I’m currently working with inside her Kindling Academy. I knew things had to change. We talked through my ideas for how to create an experience that would still be really rich for people to engage in but would be more manageable for me to produce. And when she gently raised the possibility that perhaps I could think about dropping the paywalls completely, I felt, first, a frisson of shock at even countenancing it… and then an almost immediate sense of liberation and relief. I think a big part of that feeling was that, as a filmmaker, I’ve always wanted my work to reach as wide an audience as possible, so having some of my best writing - work I’m really proud of - locked behind a paywall where only a few people see it has, if I’m honest, always left me feeling a little conflicted. Time to knock down some bricks...? Laura helped me see that I am the boss of me. And I can decide how it all works. So I’ve decided. Strap in and get ready for The Film Thread 2.0. I’ve got a programme of films mapped out that I truly think will make for a great journey of discovery over the coming months - fun, moving, thought-provoking, horizon-expanding movies that have as much to teach us about the world we’re living in right now, as about the world in which they were made. But the format will be lighter. And I will be launching in April - which is Autism Acceptance Month, so that feels like just the right moment. Throwing everything up in the air feels scary, even though I know it’s the right thing to do. If you’d like to buy me a steadying coffee while I navigate these choppier-than-usual waters, you can do that here: Or you can still sign up as a paid subscriber - now for half the original price. Of course, I know I’m not the first person who’s taken on more than they can deliver, or made promises they’ve realised they simply can’t follow through on. And I certainly won’t be the last. But if any of this has struck a chord with you, or echoed some of your own experiences, maybe reading about me muddling my way through to a resolution might make you feel a bit less crappy about your own travails. And that would be a win for me. Talking of which... WORK WINS THIS MONTH Despite my mini existential crisis (!) I’m happy to say February was not a total bust workwise. Here are a couple of highlights to mention: 1. Created & published my Bonus Atomic Films Guide There’s not too much more to say about this one other than that it was a pleasure to compile and I had some very nice messages in response to it. I’d planned to put it behind the paywall but obviously now I’m pulling the paywall down, I won’t be doing that. I will likely make it a paid-for resource in some other way though, so if you didn’t download it already, now would be a great moment to do so: 2. Revamped my Substack homepage This has been on my mental to do list for a while, so I’m really pleased to have got on and sorted it. I previously had the page organised under topic headings - Atomic Stuff & Documentary Stuff - which made sense to me and anyone who already knew me and my feature doc The Atom: A Love Affair. But I always thought they might seem a bit out of left field to someone coming across my world for the first time. And that’s before we even got into my Meanders! Curiouser and curiouser, as Alice would say. So I’ve done away with the old headings and come up instead with something I hope is sleeker, clearer and more inviting - and will work to hold whatever new topics or areas I might decide to tackle in the future. These are: DISPATCHES [https://vickilesley.substack.com/s/dispatches] A monthly letter (or sometimes video) sharing behind the scenes of my personal & professional life. The place to find my honest reflections - as a documentary maker, mum & human - on creative work, midlife reinvention, neurodivergent parenting & the messy, interesting business of fitting it all together. CONVERSATIONS [https://vickilesley.substack.com/s/conversations] A documentary filmmaker in conversation - on the page or on the screen - uncovering the stories, perspectives & insights of people doing fascinating work in their different corners of culture, science & society. Mostly linked to areas I’m exploring in my own creative endeavours. CURATOR’S NOTES [https://vickilesley.substack.com/s/curators-notes] Ad-hoc written & video posts on cultural picks I think are worth your attention. A mixture of recommendations of good things to read, watch or listen to and lengthier reviews & analysis, typically of films or books related to my documentary preoccupations. Plus THE FILM THREAD [https://vickilesley.substack.com/p/welcome-to-the-film-thread] still has its own page (which I need to rewrite now I’m changing how it all works!) which you can click through to from the top as well. And I’ve added an extra section, PORTRAITS [https://vickilesley.substack.com/t/portraits], tucked away at the bottom of the homepage for now, but which may get promoted to the prime real estate at the top in the future. In setting this all out so nicely, I’ve been indebted to my Substack guru Claire Venus ✨ [https://substack.com/profile/8406699-claire-venus] and her course Your Beautiful Digital (Substack) Magazine, which really helped me figure out not just the underlying thinking about what I want to communicate to the world about my work via my Substack home, but also the practical nuts and bolts of getting it all done. If you’re writing on Substack and really want to go deep into all the possibilities of how you can use the space as a home for your creative work/want to give your own homepage a makeover like I did, I can highly recommend the course (this is an affiliate link so if you do decide to purchase I’ll get something too - win win!) Or if you’re curious and thinking about dipping a toe into writing yourself, this bundle of quick tutorials for just 11 quid will get you on your way quickly and easily - Claire’s a lovely teacher 😊 3. Completed my 30 Days of Short Films About Autism I had such a great time doing this. Across the 30 days, on Substack Notes & BlueSky, I posted films from Europe, North America & Asia/Pacific, right through from the 1970s to the present day and spanning the genres from documentary, drama & comedy to animation, poetry & even a virtual reality short. I feel like I ended up with a genuinely fascinating collection that, brought all together, paints a complex, nuanced portrait both of autistic experience and of changing social understanding across the decades. So I’m going to compile it all into a lovely PDF resource for you, along similar lines to the bonus atomic films guide. Watch this space for that coming soon. BEFORE I GO Finally, I’ll talk much more about this and other Chernobyl-related things in my next monthly update, but a quick heads up and reminder now that April 2026 will mark 40 years since the world’s worst ever nuclear accident and there will, unsurprisingly, be many events taking place to commemorate the anniversary. One such event is taking place at the Othona Community in Essex (where I screened The Atom last year [https://vickilesley.substack.com/p/monthly-meander-sept-25-ahead-by]) with two friends of this parish - artist Angenita Teekens (you can read her The Atom & Us interview here [https://vickilesley.substack.com/p/the-atom-and-us-angenita-teekens]) and writer Philippa Holloway, who some of you will remember from the In-Conversation event I hosted with her back in 2023 discussing her novel The Half-life of Snails [https://www.parthianbooks.com/products/the-half-life-of-snails-paperback]. Here’s the flyer: If you have any Chernobyl-related events you’d like me to spread the word about just reply to this email or drop me a comment and I’ll make sure to include the details in next month’s missive and on social media. And for those of you who’ve made it all the way to the end of what turned out to be a long and more than usually soul-baring update, THANK YOU. I’d love to know if anything resonated. Till the next time then, Stay curious, Vicki x Watch my film on Netflix [https://www.netflix.com/gb/title/81409029] & Disney+ [https://www.disneyplus.com/en-gb/movies/atom-the-a-love-affair/4TqtevLnIZSe] (UK/Europe only) or Vimeo-on-demand [https://vimeo.com/ondemand/theatomaloveaffair] - or see trailer, reviews & bonus content HERE [http://theatomfilm.com/store] Find me on Bluesky [https://bsky.app/profile/vickilesley.bsky.social] & at LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/vicki-lesley-79034b5/] Get full access to Vicki Lesley is... Documental at vickilesley.substack.com/subscribe [https://vickilesley.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]

9 Mar 2026 - 12 min
episode Talking to Dr David Toke about writing, wind power, nuclear reactors... and almost being Dale Vince artwork

Talking to Dr David Toke about writing, wind power, nuclear reactors... and almost being Dale Vince

A lively, candid and wide-ranging conversation exploring the renewable energy revolution, nuclear debates, electrification, and the evolving political and media landscape shaping the clean energy future in the UK and beyond with Dr David Toke, reader in Energy Politics at Aberdeen University and author of Energy Revolutions by David Toke [https://open.substack.com/pub/davidtoke]. Find more conversations and writing on atomic politics, culture and history over on Substack at Vicki Lesley is... Documental [https://vickilesley.substack.com]And check out my feature documentary The Atom: A Love Affair at theatomfilm.com [https://theatomfilm.com] Get full access to Vicki Lesley is... Documental at vickilesley.substack.com/subscribe [https://vickilesley.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]

16 Oct 2025 - 45 min
episode An honest money conversation with Keris Fox on how I funded my film & how I feel about it now artwork

An honest money conversation with Keris Fox on how I funded my film & how I feel about it now

I was delighted when Keris Fox [https://substack.com/profile/215633-keris-fox] kindly agreed to talk to me in this unvarnished chat delving deeper into the money stories behind my debut film - a companion piece to my recent tell-all post on the true financial numbers from its production/release: In this wide-ranging and intimate conversation, Keris and I covered so much, mostly focusing on my own financial journey with the film, but also finding many points of comparison with her own experience in the world of books and publishing and, earlier in her career, working in the music industry in London. Here’s an overview of what we talked about: * My experience of secrecy around earnings in TV * How I went about raising the money for my film & the differences to the mainstream broadcast model I was used to * How I knew how much money I needed to raise * Co-producing, working with investors, tax relief, the 'waterfall' of payments (in the event the film ever actually makes a profit!) * How I used credit cards to fund the film * Getting hired in TV with small children * Radio vs TV budgets * Diversity issues in the media * Class issues, privilege, buying a flat in my 20s, class confidence & entitlement * The impossibility of living in London doing a creative job now * How I got my first ever job in TV * Use of archive footage - cost, fair dealing, AI * How I really feel about what I spent making the film * What films I want to make next * Where my fascination with nuclear stuff came from * Noticing and appreciating what you HAVE achieved I really hope you’ll enjoy this conversation as much as I did - and if you do, I’d highly recommend delving into The Ladybird Purse • Opening up about money [https://open.substack.com/pub/theladybirdpurse] where you’ll find many more revealing and honest financial conversations Keris has had with her guests. The more we talk honestly about this stuff the better, right! Lastly, please do forgive the rather abrupt ending - this is the first conversation like this I’ve recorded and I was having such a lovely time I didn’t think properly about wrapping it up nicely on the recording! I thought I’d spare you the slightly inept tech chat that we actually ended on and next time I do one of these I’ll try to remember to finish things more professionally, promise 🤣 Watch my film on Netflix [https://www.netflix.com/gb/title/81409029] & Disney+ [https://www.disneyplus.com/en-gb/movies/atom-the-a-love-affair/4TqtevLnIZSe] (UK/Europe only) or Vimeo-on-demand [https://vimeo.com/ondemand/theatomaloveaffair] - or see trailer, reviews & bonus content HERE [http://theatomfilm.com/store] Find me on Bluesky [https://bsky.app/profile/vickilesley.bsky.social] & at LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/vicki-lesley-79034b5/] Get full access to Vicki Lesley is... Documental at vickilesley.substack.com/subscribe [https://vickilesley.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]

13 Jun 2025 - 1 h 19 min
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