v2.25 - Be the Bank, Not the Landlord (ft. Scott Carson)

v2.25 - Be the Bank, Not the Landlord (ft. Scott Carson)

Most real estate investing means owning the building – and taking on the tenants, toilets, and trash that come with it. But there’s another way to invest in real estate: owning the debt instead of the property, and collecting the payments as the lender. “The Note Guy” Scott Carson has spent nearly two decades doing exactly that, buying and selling mortgage debt on residential and commercial property. He joins Dustin and Adam to break down his process: buying a delinquent mortgage from a bank at a discount, why picking up a note at half its face value can double your effective yield, and why he aims to “rehab the borrower” not the property. They cover a note’s exit strategies (reselling a reperforming loan, foreclosure, cash-for-keys), Scott’s rule never to buy a note on a property he wouldn’t want to own outright, the surprising tax benefits, and using a self-directed IRA to buy notes. Episode Release Notes & Resources: * We Close Notes: https://weclosenotes.com [https://weclosenotes.com] * Scott’s free note investing training - Note Weekend: https://noteweekend.com [https://noteweekend.com] Watch episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6DGhk2WJNQ [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6DGhk2WJNQ] See all Wealth Independence episodes at https://www.wealthindependencepod.com [https://www.wealthindependencepod.com] Connect with Dustin: * Big Spring Capital [https://bigspringcap.com] * LinkedIn (/in/TheDustinBailey) [https://www.linkedin.com/in/thedustinbailey/] * Twitter/X (@TheDustinBailey) [https://x.com/TheDustinBailey] Connect with Adam: * Bidwell Capital [https://bidwellcapitalfund.com/] * LinkedIn (/in/AdamJPenn) [https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamjpenn/] This show is for informational purposes only and is not financial, investment, legal, or tax advice, and does not constitute an offer to buy or sell securities. All investments carry risk, and investors should always conduct thorough due diligence and consult with qualified professionals before investing.

v2.24 - No Investor Left Behind: Commercial Real Estate Debt

The loan on your house is simple: take out a 30-year mortgage, make your payments, own the house at the end. But commercial real estate debt is a different animal, with widely-varying structures that don’t exist in the residential world – and unique terms that directly affect the risk and returns of any deal that carries them. Dustin and Adam break down how it actually works with real-world examples: five-year loans written on 20- or 30-year amortization schedules, the balloon payment that comes due at the end, interest-only periods, and rates that can be fixed, floating, or reset to a benchmark like the five-year Treasury plus a spread. They also get into the terms that quietly move returns: prepayment penalties, extension options, and why the length of the loan should match the business plan. A longer fixed loan isn't automatically the safer one. For a passive investor, knowing how a deal’s debt is structured (and whether the sponsor has a real plan for paying it off) is a basic piece of diligence – not a technicality. Watch episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QVahWdc1Jg [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QVahWdc1Jg] See all Wealth Independence episodes at https://www.wealthindependencepod.com [https://www.wealthindependencepod.com] Connect with Dustin: * Big Spring Capital [https://bigspringcap.com] * LinkedIn (/in/TheDustinBailey) [https://www.linkedin.com/in/thedustinbailey/] * Twitter/X (@TheDustinBailey) [https://x.com/TheDustinBailey] Connect with Adam: * Bidwell Capital [https://bidwellcapitalfund.com/] * LinkedIn (/in/AdamJPenn) [https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamjpenn/] This show is for informational purposes only and is not financial, investment, legal, or tax advice, and does not constitute an offer to buy or sell securities. All investments carry risk, and investors should always conduct thorough due diligence and consult with qualified professionals before investing.

v2.23 - The Manufactured-Home Niche Hiding in Plain Sight

Most real estate investors chase houses, apartments, or self storage. But Brent Bowers built his business on something almost nobody talks about: buying cheap vacant land and selling it at a profit…often with a brand-new manufactured home placed on it first. A former US Army officer, Brent walks Dustin and Adam through how it all works. He buys land well below market value, then resells it…becoming the bank himself and collecting monthly payments. More recently, he adds a new manufactured home to the land before selling – a version of the deal that can net anywhere from $45K to nearly $100K. Dustin and Adam dig into why this niche stays overlooked, how a 24-year-old closed seven deals in his first nine months of land investing, and why rising home prices are pushing more buyers toward new manufactured homes on their own land. It’s a look at a corner of real estate most investors have never considered, and the simple math behind it. Episode Release Notes & Resources: * The Land Sharks: https://www.thelandsharks.com [https://www.thelandsharks.com] * Subscribe to Brent’s YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@brentlbowers [https://www.youtube.com/@brentlbowers] * Follow Brent on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/brentlbowers [https://www.instagram.com/brentlbowers] * Connect with Brent on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brent1 [https://www.linkedin.com/in/brent1] Watch episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXf5mLR5U2o [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXf5mLR5U2o] See all Wealth Independence episodes at https://www.wealthindependencepod.com [https://www.wealthindependencepod.com] Connect with Dustin: * Big Spring Capital [https://bigspringcap.com] * LinkedIn (/in/TheDustinBailey) [https://www.linkedin.com/in/thedustinbailey/] * Twitter/X (@TheDustinBailey) [https://x.com/TheDustinBailey] Connect with Adam: * Bidwell Capital [https://bidwellcapitalfund.com/] * LinkedIn (/in/AdamJPenn) [https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamjpenn/] This show is for informational purposes only and is not financial, investment, legal, or tax advice, and does not constitute an offer to buy or sell securities. All investments carry risk, and investors should always conduct thorough due diligence and consult with qualified professionals before investing.

v2.22 - Pensions, Private Credit, and the Quiet CRE Reset

What’s actually backing the money you’re counting on for later? Dustin and Adam take that question through two Wall Street Journal articles: one on what’s quietly accumulated inside pension funds, the other on a shift in how distressed commercial real estate loans are getting resolved. The first article traces how pension funds chasing yield in private markets ended up holding a hidden slice of the tech economy, and what AI might mean for those positions. Dustin and Adam tie it to private credit exposure in software, and why "I don't own tech stocks" no longer means you're not exposed. The second covers the quiet end of "extend and pretend" in commercial real estate: the floating-rate debt that piled up after the 2022 rate hikes, and why the predicted fire sale never hit the courthouse steps. Banks are instead shopping distressed loans privately to operators they already trust. For passive investors, both stories are a reminder that the risk and the opportunity often sit beneath the surface – in what’s quietly backing a pension, or in which distressed deals are trading hands out of public view. Episode Release Notes & Resources: * [WSJ] Think Tech Has Taken Over Your Portfolio? You Should See What's in Your Pension - https://www.wsj.com/finance/investing/think-tech-has-taken-over-your-portfolio-you-should-see-whats-in-your-pension-de0ae31a [https://www.wsj.com/finance/investing/think-tech-has-taken-over-your-portfolio-you-should-see-whats-in-your-pension-de0ae31a] * [WSJ] Lenders to Commercial Real Estate Owners: Pay Up Now - https://www.wsj.com/real-estate/commercial/lenders-to-commercial-real-estate-owners-pay-up-now-a4509562 [https://www.wsj.com/real-estate/commercial/lenders-to-commercial-real-estate-owners-pay-up-now-a4509562] Watch episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k4BDiFUps0 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k4BDiFUps0] See all Wealth Independence episodes at https://www.wealthindependencepod.com [https://www.wealthindependencepod.com] Connect with Dustin: * Big Spring Capital [https://bigspringcap.com] * LinkedIn (/in/TheDustinBailey) [https://www.linkedin.com/in/thedustinbailey/] * Twitter/X (@TheDustinBailey) [https://x.com/TheDustinBailey] Connect with Adam: * Bidwell Capital [https://bidwellcapitalfund.com/] * LinkedIn (/in/AdamJPenn) [https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamjpenn/] This show is for informational purposes only and is not financial, investment, legal, or tax advice, and does not constitute an offer to buy or sell securities. All investments carry risk, and investors should always conduct thorough due diligence and consult with qualified professionals before investing.

v2.21 - Rivers of Cash Flow (ft. Cameron Philgreen)

Cameron Philgreen photographed ~400 weddings before he bought his first rental property. He’s now up to 25 rentals, a specialty coffee shop, and a 50,000 sq. ft. commercial building in Waco, Texas – all of it sparked by one dinky house he bought in 2017. He walks Dustin and Adam through the BRRRR method (Buy, Rehab, Rent, Refinance, Repeat), a house-hack so lean he shared a bathroom with his own Airbnb guests, and the 2022 sale that turned $110K in tax-free gains into For Keeps Coffee…and how that opened the door to bigger commercial deals. They get into the habits behind it all: why you have to be willing to walk away from any deal, why Cameron pays a premium for speed and quality, and how a small but powerful team can keep a real estate investing business from becoming its own full-time job – plus why Cameron would rather build “rivers of cash flow” than have one big lake. Episode Release Notes & Resources: * Cameron’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cameron_philgreen [https://www.instagram.com/cameron_philgreen] * Cameron’s YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@cameron_philgreen [https://www.youtube.com/@cameron_philgreen] * Cameron’s mentorship program & BRRRR course: https://linktr.ee/cameron_philgreen [https://linktr.ee/cameron_philgreen] Watch episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foyFsPug-Lw [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foyFsPug-Lw] See all Wealth Independence episodes at https://www.wealthindependencepod.com [https://www.wealthindependencepod.com] Connect with Dustin: * Big Spring Capital [https://bigspringcap.com] * LinkedIn (/in/TheDustinBailey) [https://www.linkedin.com/in/thedustinbailey/] * Twitter/X (@TheDustinBailey) [https://x.com/TheDustinBailey] Connect with Adam: * Bidwell Capital [https://bidwellcapitalfund.com/] * LinkedIn (/in/AdamJPenn) [https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamjpenn/] This show is for informational purposes only and is not financial, investment, legal, or tax advice, and does not constitute an offer to buy or sell securities. All investments carry risk, and investors should always conduct thorough due diligence and consult with qualified professionals before investing.