You Are A Lawyer: Take Risks and Change Careers in Law

What Law School Doesn't Prepare You For feat. Jay Coleman

Jay Coleman is a criminal defense attorney, probate attorney, Social Security attorney, and law firm owner based in Arkansas. Returning to You Are a Lawyer six years after his first appearance, Jay reflects on how his career has evolved, the realities of running a law practice, and why finding balance has become just as important as building a successful legal career.   Lawyer Side Hustles For Jay, entrepreneurship wasn't always part of the plan. Like many lawyers, he initially imagined working for someone else. Running his own firm gradually taught him that practicing law and operating a business require two very different skill sets.   "I didn't go to law school planning to have my own business,” Jay Coleman expresses in Episode 254 of You Are a Lawyer. Today, Jay spends as much time thinking about leadership, operations, and creating systems as he does practicing law. He's also intentionally working toward something many lawyers struggle to achieve: balance. Rather than measuring success solely by billable hours or case outcomes, he's learning to prioritize his own health, hobbies, and relationships alongside his growing practice. His journey reflects a reality many lawyers experience but don't often discuss openly.  This episode is produced by Skip the Boring Stuff [https://www.skiptheboringstuff.com/], a podcast strategy company for business owners and creatives.

Helping Small Businesses Win Big Contracts feat. Amber Johnson

Amber Johnson is an attorney whose legal career has evolved from civil rights and compliance work into helping small businesses compete for multimillion-dollar airport contracts. In this episode, Amber shares how her law degree opened unexpected doors, why transportation is full of legal careers beyond aviation law, and how lawyers can use their skills to build stronger organizations and stronger communities.     Lawyer Side Hustles Although Amber no longer practices law full time, she intentionally maintains her law licenses while continuing to grow her leadership career. Along the way, she has discovered that the skills lawyers develop are remarkably transferable across industries.   "Think about what you're passionate about and then find a role that fits that,” Amber Johnson expresses in Episode 253 of You Are a Lawyer. Amber's professional journey has taken her from diversity, equity, and inclusion work to civil rights compliance, public transportation, and now airport operations. Each transition built upon the last, proving that legal careers don't have to follow a straight line. Instead of limiting herself to one definition of success, she continues finding new ways to combine law, leadership, and community impact.  This episode is produced by Skip the Boring Stuff [https://www.skiptheboringstuff.com/], a podcast strategy company for business owners and creatives.

The Mentor Every Future Lawyer Needs feat. Anjie Vichayanonda (December 2021)

Anjie Vichayanonda is the founder and CEO of Leg Up Legal, a mentorship platform that connects aspiring law students with attorneys before they apply to law school. In this episode, Anjie shares how mentorship changed the course of her own career, why exposure matters before making the investment in law school, and how lawyers can use their knowledge to create opportunities for others. Lawyer Side Hustles Leg Up Legal began as an effort to solve a problem Anjie experienced firsthand. She knew how difficult it could be for aspiring lawyers to find mentors, learn about different practice areas, and understand what life as a lawyer actually looks like before committing to law school. Instead of accepting that challenge as inevitable, she built a platform designed to make mentorship more accessible.  “I wanna be able to teach these things to hundreds of people, thousands of people,” shares Anjie Vichayanonda in Episode 28 of You Are a Lawyer. In addition to running Leg Up Legal, Anjie also became a published co-author of Networked, an anthology written alongside 19 other women lawyers during the COVID-19 pandemic. The project captured stories of resilience, career pivots, personal challenges, and professional growth during a historic moment. Both the book and Leg Up Legal reflect Anjie's broader passion for helping people navigate uncertainty through connection, mentorship, and community.   This episode is produced by Skip the Boring Stuff [https://www.skiptheboringstuff.com/], a podcast strategy company for business owners and creatives.

What Law School Never Taught You About Success feat. Robert Hartmann

Bob Hartmann is a criminal defense attorney, author, and rainmaker who has spent nearly four decades building a successful law practice. In this episode, he shares why bringing in business is one of the most important skills lawyers can develop, how entrepreneurship created the lifestyle he wanted, and why lawyers should stop being afraid to build careers on their own terms.   Lawyer Side Hustles Bob’s side hustle eventually became a second professional identity. After years of building his own successful practice, he began teaching other lawyers how to develop business, create referral networks, and build sustainable firms. His upcoming book, Making It Rain: The Art of Building a Successful Law Practice, shares practical lessons for attorneys who want greater control over their careers and financial futures. "You can absolutely live the life you want to live, not the life that's given to you or dictated to you by partners in a corner office,” Bob Hartmann expresses in Episode 251 of You Are a Lawyer. Much of Bob’s motivation comes from personal experience. By operating his own practice, he was able to coach his daughter's softball teams, attend her games, travel with her during recruiting visits, and prioritize family without sacrificing professional success. His story demonstrates that entrepreneurship is not only about earning more money. It can also create the flexibility and freedom to build a life aligned with your values. This episode is produced by Skip the Boring Stuff [https://www.skiptheboringstuff.com/], a podcast strategy company for business owners and creatives.

Building a Life Before Building a Legal Career feat. Daniel J. Hennessy

Daniel J. Hennessy took an unconventional path to law school. After years working in ministry, education, nonprofit leadership, and even serving in Rome with the Vatican Museums, Daniel enrolled in law school in his forties. Today, he works as in-house counsel for a national real estate development company, helping cities bring transformative projects to life while maintaining the family-focused life he and his wife envisioned.   Lawyer Side Hustles One of the themes throughout Daniel's story is embracing change. Before law school, he successfully built careers in entirely different fields. Rather than viewing those experiences as detours, he sees them as essential parts of the person and lawyer he became. “Don't be afraid to make the changes that you need to make, even if they seem really big and scary,” Daniel J. Hennessy expresses in Episode 250 of You Are a Lawyer. Daniel encourages law students and lawyers to focus less on the degree itself and more on understanding who they want to become. For him, success was not about following a predetermined path but about aligning his work with his values, relationships, and priorities. His journey serves as a reminder that law can be part of a meaningful life without becoming the entire identity.  This episode is produced by Skip the Boring Stuff [https://www.skiptheboringstuff.com/], a podcast strategy company for business owners and creatives.