A Team

In this conversation, we discuss burnout, self-care, boundaries, Adderall, and tattoos as totems. IG neurodivergent lou Lou🌈 ♾ (@neurodivergent_lou) • Instagram photos and videos [https://www.instagram.com/neurodivergent_lou/] What does burnout look like? Exhaustion Losing skills we used to have Feeling low/experiencing anxiety Increased sensory issues Taking more time to process information than usual. Developing physical pain/illness Irritability Loss of ability to communicate Lack of motivation Difficulties with concentration Autistic traits become more obvious Memory issues Laziness does not exist Laziness Does Not Exist: Price Ph.D., Devon: 9781982140113: Amazon.com: Books [https://www.amazon.com/Laziness-Exist-Devon-Price-Ph-D/dp/1982140119/ref=asc_df_1982140119?tag=bingshoppinga-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=80058309761565&hvnetw=o&hvqmt=e&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4583657837469515&psc=1] Tango's chronic pain is part of her PTSD Chronic Pain and PTSD: Evolving Views on Their Comorbidity [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25420926/] Savior mode: I can fix it, I can help....best way to burn out The Savior Complex | Psychology Today [https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-high-functioning-alcoholic/201702/the-savior-complex] survival self-care Survival Mode Self-Care [https://selfcarepause.com/survival-mode-self-care/] The Language of Emotions by The Language of Emotions: What Your Feelings Are Trying to Tell You - Kindle edition by McLaren, Karla. Health, Fitness & Dieting Kindle eBooks @ Amazon.com. [https://www.amazon.com/Language-Emotions-Karla-McLaren-ebook/dp/B003X27LCM] Anger is a boundary alarm Boundaries and Anger | CPTSDfoundation.org [https://cptsdfoundation.org/2022/06/06/boundaries-and-anger/] Enabling behavior Enabler: Definition, Behavior, Psychology, Recognizing One, More [https://www.healthline.com/health/enabler] Krebs cycle Krebs Cycle - Definition, Products, and Location | Biology Dictionary [https://biologydictionary.net/krebs-cycle/] Adderall is speed Adderall: Side effects, dosage, with alcohol, and more [https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/326219#_noHeaderPrefixedContent] Twigged Twig Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster [https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/twigged] Tweaker Urban Dictionary: tweaker [https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tweaker] meth addict Methamphetamine - Wikipedia [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methamphetamine] Twerk Twerking - Wikipedia [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twerking] Ritalin Ritalin: Uses, Dosage, Side Effects & Warnings - ADHD [https://www.drugs.com/ritalin.html] sci-fi series about a leper The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever : Lord Foul's Bane', 'Illearth War' and 'Power That Preserves [https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0006473296/ref=x_gr_bb_amazon?ie=UTF8&tag=x_gr_bb_amazon-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0006473296&SubscriptionId=1MGPYB6YW3HWK55XCGG2] Dysphoria Dysphoria: Signs, Types, Causes, Treatment, Coping [https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-dysphoria-4588634]

This is a conversation from our second season that we never actually aired, but we want you to hear it so you can get to know Tango Fae Batelli, one of our co-hosts. Tango is the founder of AutiComm, a peer-to-peer community of autistic folks, which is why we asked her to talk to us. In this conversation, we talk about feeling good about being autistic, the Double Empathy Problem, “not looking autistic,” fawning vs. masking, the different experiences of autistic males and females, and the different flavors of autism. Feeling good about being autistic Hyper-empathy Do Autistic People Feel Empathy: Myths & Facts You Need To Know [https://autism360.com/news/empathy-and-autism-myths-facts-and-more/]  Divergent from the norm - hyper or hypo version of the norm Autistic Stories give us the gestalt of autism Double Empathy Problem Double empathy problem - Wikipedia [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_empathy_problem#:~:text=The%20double%20empathy%20problem%20is%20a%20psychological%20theory%2C,communicate%2C%20and%20empathize%20well%20with%20most%20autistic%20people]. Mykola Bilokonsky How to speak respectfully about autism How To Talk About Autism Respectfully · Public Neurodiversity Support Center [https://coda.io/@mykola-bilokonsky/public-neurodiversity-support-center/how-to-talk-about-autism-respectfully-84] 32 competing thoughts/losing track Posing for painters 17:00 “you don’t look autistic” Official diagnosis issues Brazen 25:49 what comes to mind when you hear someone is autistic Miss Manners - Miss Manners | Columns | ArcaMax Publishing [https://www.arcamax.com/healthandspirit/lifeadvice/missmanners/] Scripts 29:00 clip:Tango: Triple major with one being Theater major with concentration in playwriting Chronic pain “I’m not dying I’m just autistic” Compounded trauma and stress Polyvagal theory - Polyvagal theory - Wikipedia [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyvagal_theory] 31:45 Tango’s Theory of autism Fawning Processing through the ladder Taking care of my autistic nervous system Mistaken thought that it all ends with the diagnosis: stop autisming Map analogy Everybody is a Genius. But If You Judge a Fish by Its Ability to Climb a Tree, It Will Live Its Whole Life Believing that It is Stupid – Quote Investigator [https://quoteinvestigator.com/2013/04/06/fish-climb/] Look at how autism is portrayed in film and tv  Different flavors of autism Prevalence of neurodiversity  Hannah Gadsby: Douglas - Wikipedia [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannah_Gadsby:_Douglas] 52:20  Introductions 58:00 I found my map of weirdness The different experiences of autism between male and female Female autism: boys and girls are socialized differently; little girls play social roles and have scripts - learning the strategy to fawn Boys are told what not to do: don’t cry, etc. Buffet of comorbidities Comorbid Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster [https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/comorbid] Adhd and autism ADHD and Autism Spectrum Disorder - CHADD [https://chadd.org/about-adhd/adhd-and-autism-spectrum-disorder/] Hypermobility disorder https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypermobility_spectrum_disorder [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypermobility_spectrum_disorder]

We’re repeating a conversation from our third season so you can get to know Julie Defeo, our line producer. In this conversation, Michael and Julie talk about considered opinions, micro-dosing, distinctions between autism and PTSD, a behind-the-curtain look at the horrors of ABA, and cuddle puddles. Diagnosis 12:56.82 - Arguing with family 13:15.94 - Considered opinions 13:34.35 - Christopher Columbus was a sociopath 15:14.00 - Podcast: Behind the Bastards Behind the Bastards: Part One: Christopher Columbus: Bringer of the Apocalypse on Apple Podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/part-one-christopher-columbus-bringer-of-the-apocalypse/id1373812661?i=1000578520605] 23:31.29 - Is it possible to separate autism from trauma? Trauma and The Autism Spectrum - Khiron Clinics [https://khironclinics.com/blog/trauma-and-the-autism-spectrum/#:~:text=There%20is%20a%20strong%20correlation%20between%20autism%20and,life%20events%2C%20such%20as%20bullying%2C%20victimisation%2C%20and%20maltreatment]. 24:35.16 - hypervigilance  https://psychcentral.com/health/hypervigilance [https://psychcentral.com/health/hypervigilance] 24:50.27 - Imposter syndrome Autism Imposter Syndrome [https://www.spectrumlife.org/blog/autism-imposter-syndrome-826] 26:57.20 - I'm not missing your social cues I'm just choosing to ignore them 36:46.33 - neuroplasticity  https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32491743/ [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32491743/] 37:33.92 - Microdosing for mental health https://psychcentral.com/health/microdosing-mental-health-benefits [https://psychcentral.com/health/microdosing-mental-health-benefits]  37:58.70 - Mykola Bilokonsky https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mykola-and-robert/id1564648558?i=1000558342755 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mykola-and-robert/id1564648558?i=1000558342755] 42:53.98 - the pain scale, the opioid crisis, Perdue pharma Pain scale - Wikipedia [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pain_scale] What led to the opioid crisis—and how to fix it | News | Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health [https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/features/what-led-to-the-opioid-crisis-and-how-to-fix-it/] Purdue Pharma Pleads Guilty to Role in Opioid Crisis as Part of Deal With Justice Dept. [https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/24/us/politics/purdue-pharma-opioids-guilty-settlement.html] 45:51.14 - ABA seminar https://zoom.us/rec/play/bDDD_n9Znj4ju-I3WXfE3umZABW7bfr3-3SHU4GE30jZAxi4cHZ4k6lZY4YknSthPX3Fbms97itHafpp.1fz80i912c0hi-Qr?continueMode=true&_x_zm_rtaid=MKLayjFUQpWnRBIabL13eg.1664986509949.e7c90d6f18a84306644662465df40997&_x_zm_rhtaid=321 [https://zoom.us/rec/play/bDDD_n9Znj4ju-I3WXfE3umZABW7bfr3-3SHU4GE30jZAxi4cHZ4k6lZY4YknSthPX3Fbms97itHafpp.1fz80i912c0hi-Qr?continueMode=true&_x_zm_rtaid=MKLayjFUQpWnRBIabL13eg.1664986509949.e7c90d6f18a84306644662465df40997&_x_zm_rhtaid=321] 52:07.71 - link to previous conversations re: ABA A TEAM: Stéphanie, Michael, and Robert on Apple Podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/st%C3%A9phanie-michael-and-robert/id1564648558?i=1000565068181] 57:54.20 - Stephanie Navaro episode A TEAM: Stéphanie, Michael, and Robert on Apple Podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/st%C3%A9phanie-michael-and-robert/id1564648558?i=1000565068181] 58:28.66 - Stimming Autism and Stimming: Why Self-Soothing Is Helpful fo [https://psychcentral.com/autism/autism-stimming#what-is-it]

We’re repeating a conversation from our first season so you can get to know Michael Cantwell, one of our co-hosts. Michael was a listener whom we invited on for a chat. We liked him and his sense of humor so much we asked him to join the podcast crew. In this conversation, we talk about getting a diagnosis, bullying, trying to explain what it’s like to be autistic, disclosing you’re autistic, masking, and bacon sandwiches.  00:56: Michael had a great experience with the pandemic 4:45 Michael once lost his eyesight for three days 8:20 Introductions 9:28 Michael found Robert on Reddit - WiseKnowledge 11:38 Search Angels helps adoptees to find family - Search Angels [https://www.searchangels.org/] 12:45 Classic Autism - Classic autism - Wikipedia [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_autism] 13:35 Hyposensitive - Sensory Hyper- and Hyposensitivity in Autism - Integrated Treatment Services [http://www.integratedtreatmentservices.co.uk/blog/sensory-hyper-hyposensitivity-autism/] 15:45 Michael’s diagnosis story -  “Everyone’s a little autistic” 17:04 Anxiety 22:35 The effects of getting diagnosed 22:49 Bullying - Articles | - Bullying and Autism Spectrum Disorder [https://autismnow.org/articles/bullying-and-autism-spectrum-disorder/] 25:00 Sexual assault and autism - Girls with autism at high risk of sexual abuse, large study says [https://www.spectrumnews.org/news/girls-autism-high-risk-sexual-abuse-large-study-says/] 27:20 Neurotribes - https://neurotribes.com/ [https://neurotribes.com/] 28:05 Canada Day - Canada Day - Wikipedia [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_Day] 28:12 Mass graves of indigenous children by the Catholic church - ‘Horrible History’: Mass Grave of Indigenous Children Reported in Canada - The New York Times [https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/28/world/canada/kamloops-mass-grave-residential-schools.html] 28:29 Mother and Babies homes in Ireland - Ireland's 'brutally misogynistic culture' saw the death of 9000 children in mother and baby homes, report finds [https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/12/europe/ireland-mother-baby-homes-final-report-intl/index.html] 29:38 Michael: “The pathology of everything that’s neurodivergent” 33:00 Trying to explain what it feels like to be autistic 34:20 When you meet one autistic person… - When you meet one person with Autism, you’ve met one person with Autism [https://www.healisautism.com/post/when-you-meet-one-person-with-autism#:~:text=Dr%20Stephen%20Shore%20once%20said%2C%20%E2%80%9CWhen%20you%20meet,their%20interaction%20with%20others%20%28%22Ambitious%20about%20Autism%22%2C%202017%29]. 34:30 Bacon Sandwich story 35:20 Michael's disclosure of diagnosis 36:20 Robert coffee shop disclosure story 42:25 IDD individual with intellectual development disability - About Intellectual and Developmental Disabilities (IDDs) | NICHD - Eunice Kennedy Shriver National Institute of Child Health and Human Development [https://www.nichd.nih.gov/health/topics/idds/conditioninfo] 47:00 Michael's website story 49:50 Robert: many hobbies then discarded/ hobby of the week 58:13 Face blindness - is that a common autistic trait - Autism and Face-Blindness: Facial Recognition Difficulties in Autism - Jeannie Davide-Rivera [http://aspiewriter.com/2015/07/autism-and-face-blindness-facial-recognition-difficulties-in-autism.html] 1:00:46 Robert identifies people by their voices 1:03:50 Michael identifies people by their shoulders 1:07:34 The wives help out with introductions 1:09:26 Michael’s wife: “You do all the practical stuff and

We’re repeating a conversation from our first season so you can get to know Bobby, our sound designer. Bobby was a listener whom we invited to chat with Rafael and Robert, and he then volunteered to make us sound better than we do in real life. In this conversation, we talk about knowing that you’re different and not knowing why, emotional labor, growing up without peers, the power of hyperfocus, melting down, and a couple of life hacks.   To listen to Bobby's songs, go to https://open.spotify.com/playlist/59VlLUag1hbDtkQLf3oNCg?si=12744afd1f714c7b 5:00 the wonders of the internet 6:38 Bobby’s diagnosis disclosure 8:50 seeing ASD as normal, just a difference  9:50 stimming jokes 9:55 what makes disclosing difficult: emotional labor 12:14 free diagnosis with Vanderbilt University, particularly interested in self-diagnosed adults. Vanderbilt Autism Resource Line - TRIAD Autism Services in Tennessee [https://vkc.vumc.org/vkc/triad/varl/] 12:55 nuanced difference between self-diagnosis and official diagnosis 13:38 WebMD WebMD [https://www.webmd.com/default.htm] 13:47 General Anxiety Disorder Generalized anxiety disorder - Symptoms and causes - Mayo Clinic [https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/generalized-anxiety-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20360803] 14:31 Autistic Overload Sensory Overload: Symptoms, Causes, Related Conditions, and More [https://www.healthline.com/health/sensory-overload] 15:30 Introductions 16:40 Self-diagnosis & the difficulties of finding someone to do the diagnosis 19:28 Autistic experience 21:48 what led to Bobby’s self-diagnosis at 16 27:00 Bobby’s system of tracking NT behaviors 29:00 Being different and not knowing why 29:26 autistic children grow up without peers 30:45 When did autism speak its name to you? 31:35 The room one kids/RainMan 35:45: Bobby “I’m just young for my brain.” 36:00 Jimmi comes into the scene/healthy Jimmi break 37:25 Pandemic effects on us/love of being alone 39:32 hit a wall/meltdown 42:42 Big Warm Hug 43:02 clip/quote Bobby  43:20 journaling and songwriting about the pain of autism 44:05 the pain of not liking who you are is awful 47:30 hyperfocus is a powerful tool 49:00 what’s beautiful about autism 49:33 life hack: reading lips 52:23 life hack: make music & harmonize with vocal melodies of others; jazz conversation 53:22 synesthesia  Synesthesia: Definition, Examples, Causes, Symptoms, and Treatment [https://www.healthline.com/health/synesthesia] 55:50 metaphors 57:55 thinking in systems 1:01:32 what was it like to let go of resistance to identifying as autistic 1:05:05 autism and OCD behaviors Is There a Link Between OCD and Autism? [https://psychcentral.com/autism/ocd-and-autism] 1:08:03 Robert: It’s painful to be working in a bad system. 1:10:40 The Green Knight The Green Knight (2021) - IMDb [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9243804/] 1:12:50 autistics love to think and learn 1:13:55 Documentary about intuition: InnSaei - The power of intuition Watch InnSaei: The Power in Intuition | Prime Video [https://www.amazon.co.uk/InnSaei-Power-Intuition-Kristin-Olafsdottir/dp/B07ST1WCYX] 1:21:32 Curiosity 1:24:14 intuition and problem-solving skills 1:25:04 having to explain how&