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How Did Word of Faith Fellowship’s ‘Prayer’ Go from Screaming to Choking?

16 min · 19 de may de 2026
Portada del episodio How Did Word of Faith Fellowship’s ‘Prayer’ Go from Screaming to Choking?

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The Word of Faith Fellowship in Spindale, North Carolina called it blasting — an ear-piercing practice in which congregants surrounded a single member and screamed inches from their face, allegedly to drive out demons. According to the Associated Press, these sessions lasted for hours. And former members said the practice escalated from screaming into physical violence that left people with cuts, sprains, and reportedly cracked ribs. Jane Whaley cited Acts 2:2 — the passage about the Holy Spirit arriving as a rushing wind — as biblical justification. But according to former members, the real effect was systematic brutality in which virtually any behavior could trigger a session. Daydreaming. Smiling at the wrong time. A perceived impure thought. The compound maintained a building called the Lower Building where men were reportedly held for up to a year, cut off from families, and subjected to prolonged physical abuse. Michael Lowry alleged he was beaten in 2011 to expel gay demons. Matthew Fenner alleged he endured approximately two hours of violence in 2013 in a session targeting his perceived sexual orientation. Fenner has spent over a decade fighting for a trial. As of 2026, the case has been transferred to a special prosecutor after the original DA faced allegations of misconduct. Tony Brueski continues a five-part investigation into one of America’s most secretive churches with the practice that former members say turned prayer into punishment. Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ [https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/] Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1] Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ [https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/] Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ [https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/] Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod [https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod] X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePod [https://x.com/TrueCrimePod] This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. #WordOfFaith #JaneWhaley #Blasting #Cult #TrueCrime #Spindale #CultAbuse #HiddenKillers #MatthewFenner #ReligiousAbuse

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Portada del episodio Samuel Bateman Let The Woman With The Camera Sit At His Table

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Christine Marie didn't go to Short Creek hunting for Samuel Bateman. She and her husband Tolga moved to the Utah-Arizona border to film something else entirely — a community still recovering from Warren Jeffs going to prison. Then this self-proclaimed prophet stepped out of the wreckage, claimed Jeffs was speaking through him, and saw two outsiders with cameras as the path to the audience he wanted. He let them in. It was the worst decision he ever made. Christine had already lived through coercive control with another false prophet years before. She could read Bateman on sight. Every move he was making — the isolation, the manufactured intimacy, the escalating demands for loyalty — she'd seen done on her. She knew exactly what kind of trust to perform to keep his guard down. She sat at his table every day with a camera while he believed she was making him famous. She was building the case that would put him away for fifty years. A broke, homeless man walked into a fractured community and three years later he was driving Bentleys, commanding fifty followers, and fathers were handing him their young daughters. Robin Dreeke and Shavaun Scott pull apart the behavioral playbook — how Bateman borrowed Jeffs' prophetic authority, why public confessions manufactured complicity instead of accountability, what his obsession with cameras revealed about his psychology, and why police questioned him twice and walked away both times. From a federal detention cell, he maintained enough control that three women risked life sentences to carry out his orders through a shared tablet. Christine describes the cost of maintaining the double life from the inside. How she earned the trust of paranoid believers. How she walked into that house every morning knowing what she was watching. When "documentary maker" quietly turned into "mole" in her own head. And the question the documentary couldn't fully answer — whether Bateman truly believed he was a prophet, or knew the whole time he wasn't. Christine has an answer. She saw him close enough and long enough to know. Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ [https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/] Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1] Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ [https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/] Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ [https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/] Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod [https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod] X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePod [https://x.com/TrueCrimePod] This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. #SamuelBateman #FLDS #ChristineMarie #TrustMeNetflix #ShortCreek #WarrenJeffs #RobinDreeke #ShavaunScott #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime

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Portada del episodio Christine Marie Admits What It Cost To Beat Samuel Bateman

Christine Marie Admits What It Cost To Beat Samuel Bateman

The complete three-part conversation with Christine Marie, in one extended interview — for anyone who actually wants to understand how a coercive religious group works from the inside, and what it takes to break one open from the outside. Christine isn't writing about cults from a desk. She survived one. Years before she ever met Samuel Bateman, she'd been under another false prophet's spell — fell for the playbook, walked out, did the work, built a life. Then she moved to Short Creek with her husband Tolga in 2016 to film a different project entirely, and Samuel Bateman rose out of the post-Warren Jeffs FLDS community, declared himself the next prophet, took "spiritual wives" — some of them as young as nine — and let two outsiders with cameras into his house. He thought he was being made famous. He didn't know who Christine actually was. He didn't know she could read every move he was making the second he made it. In this extended interview, she walks us through the full arc. The infiltration. The cover story. The years she spent feeding tape after tape to local police who believed her and refused to move. The Atonement recording from late 2021 that finally pushed the FBI to act. Julia Johnson, the mother she flipped. The morning of the raid. And the hardest part — what coercive control actually looks like once the leader is in federal prison and still calling his believers every day, and what it costs to watch the women you risked your life to save walk right back to him. It's a master class in how cults function, how they hold, and how they sometimes survive even the prophet's downfall. LINKS BLOCK Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ [https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/] Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1] Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ [https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/] Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ [https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/] Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod [https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod] X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePod [https://x.com/TrueCrimePod] DISCLAIMER This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. HASHTAGS #SamuelBateman #FLDS #ChristineMarie #CultsChannel #TrustMeFalseProphet #ShortCreek #CoerciveControl #CultPsychology #WarrenJeffs #Netflix

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Portada del episodio Christine Marie Tells Why Sameul Bateman's FLDS Followers Won't Leave

Christine Marie Tells Why Sameul Bateman's FLDS Followers Won't Leave

The Samuel Bateman case ends with the question every cult researcher eventually has to answer. He's in federal prison for fifty years. Multiple of his adult followers are doing long sentences. His underage victims testified against him in open court. And a meaningful number of the women Christine Marie risked her life to save have walked right back to him by their own choice. Why? In this third and final part of our three-part interview, Christine — herself a survivor of coercive control under a different false prophet years earlier — takes us into the hardest part of the entire story. The arrest didn't break Bateman's hold. The sentence didn't either. He calls his followers from inside federal prison every day, and the certainty he's been feeding them flows right through the line, the way Christine has called an IV of indoctrination. Warren Jeffs' followers held tight after his life sentence twenty years ago. Now Bateman's are doing the same thing. Christine walks us through what she actually knows about what's being said on those prison calls. The split between the women who got out for good and the ones who returned — and whether the ones who left are now seen by the faithful as the fallen. Why some women can leave a coercive group and rebuild, the way she did, and others physically cannot. The point at which she's had to ask herself, with grown adults who keep returning, whether some people only ever feel safe inside something broken. And the larger question her whole career keeps circling — what authorities should actually do about communities like this, or whether religious freedom in America is just going to keep producing the next false prophet, in the same town, every twenty years. LINKS BLOCK Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ [https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/] Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1] Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ [https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/] Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ [https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/] Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod [https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod] X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePod [https://x.com/TrueCrimePod] DISCLAIMER This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. HASHTAGS #SamuelBateman #FLDS #ChristineMarie #CultsChannel #ShortCreek #CultPsychology #CoerciveControl #TrueCrime #WarrenJeffs #Netflix

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Portada del episodio Christine Exposes What Was Hidden In Samuel Bateman's Cult

Christine Exposes What Was Hidden In Samuel Bateman's Cult

Cult communities don't survive by accident. They survive because the world around them — the towns, the sheriffs, the social workers, the neighbors — agrees, often without saying it out loud, to leave them alone. That's the part of the Samuel Bateman story Christine Marie is uniquely qualified to explain, because she watched the agreement hold in real time. In this second part of a three-part interview, Christine takes us inside the wall that almost saved Bateman. Short Creek, the FLDS stronghold on the Utah-Arizona border, had spent decades training itself to look past what was happening to its own children. Polygamy was "how things are out there." Underage marriages were "their lifestyle." By the time Bateman declared himself the next prophet and started gathering "spiritual wives," some of them as young as nine, the local authorities had already stopped seeing what was in front of them. The sergeant in the Netflix documentary believed every frame Christine showed him and still wouldn't move. Christine walks us through what she did about it. Why she stayed with the locals as long as she did. The recording in late 2021 — Bateman describing "the Atonement," three of his wives handed to three of his men, one of them a minor — that finally moved the FBI. The mother she sat with and convinced to flip, Julia Johnson, whose four daughters had been given to Bateman. The morning of the raid. And the broader truth she's been wrestling with ever since: why do communities like this get to operate this long, and what does it actually take to make outsiders care? LINKS BLOCK Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ [https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/] Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1] Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ [https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/] Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ [https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/] Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod [https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod] X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePod [https://x.com/TrueCrimePod] DISCLAIMER This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. HASHTAGS #SamuelBateman #FLDS #ChristineMarie #CultsChannel #ShortCreek #CoerciveControl #CultPsychology #TrueCrime #PoliceFailure #Netflix

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Portada del episodio Christine Reveals How She Cracked Bateman's FLDS Cult

Christine Reveals How She Cracked Bateman's FLDS Cult

Christine Marie knows what coercive control feels like from the inside. She was caught in it once herself, years ago, with a different self-proclaimed prophet. She walked out, did the work, built a life — and then she did something almost nobody who survives a cult ever does. She went back into one. By choice. With a plan. In this first part of a three-part conversation, she walks me through what it took. When she and her husband Tolga moved to Short Creek along the Utah-Arizona border, they were planning something else entirely — a project meant to give a voice to a community still reeling from the imprisonment of Warren Jeffs. Then Samuel Bateman emerged from that wreckage, declaring himself the next prophet, taking "spiritual wives," some of them children, building a sect around the same FLDS framework Jeffs had once led. He saw Christine and Tolga's cameras and made a critical mistake. He let them in. What he didn't see was a woman who had already lived through the playbook he was running. Every gesture, every framing, every red flag that fluttered in his sermons — she'd seen them before, used on her. She didn't have to study him. She had to perform belief well enough that he didn't see her coming. And she had to do it day after day, in a community where her cover slipping meant the women and girls she was trying to save would never get out. She tells me what that performance cost her. What it taught her about how predatory groups work — and whether Bateman, deep down, ever even believed his own prophecy. LINKS BLOCK Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ [https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/] Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1] Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ [https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/] Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ [https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/] Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod [https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod] X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePod [https://x.com/TrueCrimePod] DISCLAIMER This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. HASHTAGS #SamuelBateman #FLDS #ChristineMarie #CultsChannel #ShortCreek #WarrenJeffs #CoerciveControl #CultPsychology #ColoradoCity #Netflix

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