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Fintech Takes x Chime presents Banking on Primacy Episode 3: Banking at Work

Welcome to Banking on Primacy, a four-part podcast miniseries from Fintech Takes, sponsored by Chime. The series orbits one question that has become the most contested in consumer finance: what does it take to earn (and hold) the most important relationship in someone's financial life? In Episode 3, I sit down with Jason Lee, Chief of Chime Enterprise. We unpack fintech as an employee benefit, which is compelling in theory but harder in practice than most founders expect. Employers don't wake up wanting fintech products. They want workers who stay. Jason founded DailyPay in his basement in 2015, built it into a multi-billion dollar company, and now looks after Chime's employer-facing business after Chime acquired his second company, Salt Labs. His read on what it actually takes to make this model work is fascinating.  * Why do most earned wage access products only reach 30% of a workforce and what serves the other 70%? * Why does brand recognition drive employee adoption more than the product itself? * Now that earned wage access is morphing into the financial health industry, where does that leave point solutions? This episode is brought to you by Chime. For most Americans, their primary bank account is their most important financial relationship. Traditional banks held that position and took it for granted. Chime was built differently: fee-free, built to succeed when members do, and now America’s #1 banking choice with roughly 10M active members. Chime Prime takes that further: 5% cash back, savings rates up to 9x the national average, premium travel perks, no fees. See how at https://www.chimeprime.com/ [https://www.chimeprime.com/] Sign up for Alex’s Fintech Takes newsletter for the latest insightful analysis on fintech trends, along with a heaping pile of pop culture references and copious footnotes. Every Monday and Thursday: https://workweek.com/brand/fintech-takes/ [https://workweek.com/brand/fintech-takes/] And for more exclusive insider content, don’t forget to check out my YouTube page [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos]. Follow Alex:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexhjohnson [https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexhjohnson] Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/AlexH_Johnson [https://www.twitter.com/AlexH_Johnson] Follow Jason: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonleem2/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonleem2/]

Losing Big

Welcome back to the Fintech Takes podcast. I'm Alex Johnson, joined by Jonathan Cohen, Policy Lead at the American Institute for Boys and Men and author of Losing Big: America's Reckless Bet on Sports Gambling. In keeping with a theme that we've been building on around here, today's episode is about sports betting, gambling, prediction markets, and the infiltration of all of these activities into financial services apps.  We cover the 2018 Supreme Court ruling that had almost nothing to do with gambling and everything to do with states' rights; the frictionless mobile nature of betting today and what that unlocked; the research on young men, loneliness, and financial nihilism that explains why this landed where it did; and the CFTC's decision to classify sports prediction market contracts as swaps, which handed the industry a green light that may not survive the next Supreme Court term. We also get into Robinhood's role as backend infrastructure for Trump accounts, and what it means that young men may soon inherit a government-seeded investment account from the same company that's pushing them toward sports betting. Check out Jonathan's book here: https://a.co/d/0bbrz0IR [https://a.co/d/0bbrz0IR]  This episode is brought to you by Persona.  The best fintechs expand what's possible for users. Persona does that for fraud prevention. Their recently upgraded link analysis tool surfaces connections in real time, letting you spot deepfakes, identity farms, and fraud rings during onboarding and investigations.  They just published their Fraud Leader's Guide to Link Analysis, a practical look at today’s top risk signals, automating decisions, and scaling link analysis for fraud prevention. Download it now: http://withpersona.com/ftt-fraud [http://withpersona.com/ftt-fraud]  Sign up for Alex’s Fintech Takes newsletter for the latest insightful analysis on fintech trends, along with a heaping pile of pop culture references and copious footnotes. Every Monday and Thursday: https://workweek.com/brand/fintech-takes/ [https://workweek.com/brand/fintech-takes/] And for more exclusive insider content, don’t forget to check out my YouTube page [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos]. Follow Jonathan: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-cohen-6219b989/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-cohen-6219b989/]    Follow Alex Johnson:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexhjohnson [https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexhjohnson] X: https://www.twitter.com/AlexH_Johnson [https://www.twitter.com/AlexH_Johnson]

Fintech Takes x Chime presents Banking on Primacy Ep 2: The Bifurcation of Rewards

Welcome to Banking on Primacy, a four-part podcast miniseries from Fintech Takes, sponsored by Chime. The series orbits one question that has become the most contested in consumer finance: what does it take to earn (and hold) the most important relationship in someone's financial life? In Episode 2, I sit down with Vineet Mehra, Chief Growth and Marketing Officer at Chime, to dig into the rewards economy in banking. Americans deposit ~70% of their income into checking accounts, but that account returns almost nothing. Meanwhile, the most valuable rewards in consumer finance have migrated to the credit side (and increasingly to a narrow tier of premium cardholders who can afford to play the game). Vineet walks through how Chime is trying to collapse that bifurcation with Chime Prime, and why the primary account relationship is the right place to start. * Why did credit cards become a prestige product while the checking account stayed a utility? * What does it mean to design rewards for usage rather than breakage, and why does a payments-driven business model make that easier to commit to? * How does brand building work differently when your target isn't a premium cardholder but the 200 million Americans who feel underserved by traditional banks? This episode is brought to you by Chime. For most Americans, their primary bank account is their most important financial relationship. Traditional banks held that position and took it for granted. Chime was built differently: fee-free, built to succeed when members do, and now America’s #1 banking choice with roughly 10M active members. Chime Prime takes that further: 5% cash back, savings rates up to 9x the national average, premium travel perks, no fees. See how at https://www.chimeprime.com/ [https://www.chimeprime.com/] Sign up for Alex’s Fintech Takes newsletter for the latest insightful analysis on fintech trends, along with a heaping pile of pop culture references and copious footnotes. Every Monday and Thursday: https://workweek.com/brand/fintech-takes/ [https://workweek.com/brand/fintech-takes/] And for more exclusive insider content, don’t forget to check out my YouTube page [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos]. Follow Alex:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexhjohnson [https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexhjohnson] Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/AlexH_Johnson [https://www.twitter.com/AlexH_Johnson] Follow Vineet: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vineetmehra1/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/vineetmehra1/] Learn more about Chime here: https://www.chimeprime.com/ [https://www.chimeprime.com/]

The Rise of Sports Gambling

Welcome back to the Fintech Takes podcast. I'm Alex Johnson, joined by Danny Funt, author of the book Everybody Loses: The Tumultuous Rise of American Sports Gambling. This episode isn’t really about sports. It’s about how sports gambling evolved in the U.S. from a patchwork of legal quirks, a highly coordinated state-by-state lobbying campaign, and a set of product dynamics that, over time, became increasingly adversarial to the customer. Danny and I walk through the key inflection points: from the 1992 PASPA (Professional and Amateur Sports Protection Act) federal ban, to the fantasy sports exemption that gave FanDuel and DraftKings their head start, to the widely misunderstood 2018 Supreme Court ruling, to the rise of VIP host programs and affiliate-driven media incentives. And finally, to prediction markets, which in Danny’s view look a lot like a compressed replay of the same playbook. For anyone in financial services watching gambling and investing collapse into each other in real time, this conversation has a lot to say about where that's heading. Check out Danny’s book here: https://a.co/d/04liSaKI [https://a.co/d/04liSaKI] This episode is brought to you by Persona.  The best fintechs expand what's possible for users. Persona does that for fraud prevention. Their recently upgraded link analysis tool surfaces connections in real time, letting you spot deepfakes, identity farms, and fraud rings during onboarding and investigations.  They just published their Fraud Leader's Guide to Link Analysis, a practical look at today’s top risk signals, automating decisions, and scaling link analysis for fraud prevention. Download it now: http://withpersona.com/ftt-fraud [http://withpersona.com/ftt-fraud]  Sign up for Alex’s Fintech Takes newsletter for the latest insightful analysis on fintech trends, along with a heaping pile of pop culture references and copious footnotes. Every Monday and Thursday: https://workweek.com/brand/fintech-takes/ [https://workweek.com/brand/fintech-takes/] And for more exclusive insider content, don’t forget to check out my YouTube page [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos]. Follow Danny: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danny-funt-2695b4a3/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/danny-funt-2695b4a3/]   Follow Alex Johnson:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexhjohnson [https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexhjohnson] X: https://www.twitter.com/AlexH_Johnson [https://www.twitter.com/AlexH_Johnson]

Fintech Takes x Chime presents Banking on Primacy Ep 1: The Fight for Primacy

Welcome to Banking on Primacy, a four-part podcast miniseries from Fintech Takes, sponsored by Chime. The series orbits one question that has become the most contested in consumer finance: what does it take to earn (and hold) the most important relationship in someone's financial life? In Episode 1, I sit down with Mark Troughton, President at Chime, to dig into primacy. We kick things off with a structural argument most banks won't make: the checking account is the front door for traditional banks, but for Chime, it's the product. That single distinction shapes where you invest, what you build, and who you're actually building for. From there, Mark walks through the “silent switch”, the hierarchy of consumer financial needs, and why Chime is currently opening 50% more checking accounts than Chase in the mass market. * What does it take to win a primary relationship in 2026?  * What does trust look like when you're building it without branches?  * What does a financial institution owe the customers it's trying to keep? This episode is brought to you by Chime. For most Americans, their primary bank account is their most important financial relationship. Traditional banks held that position and took it for granted. Chime was built differently: fee-free, built to succeed when members do, and now America’s #1 banking choice with roughly 10M active members. Chime Prime takes that further: 5% cash back, savings rates up to 9x the national average, premium travel perks, no fees. See how at https://www.chimeprime.com/ [https://www.chimeprime.com/] Sign up for Alex’s Fintech Takes newsletter for the latest insightful analysis on fintech trends, along with a heaping pile of pop culture references and copious footnotes. Every Monday and Thursday: https://workweek.com/brand/fintech-takes/ [https://workweek.com/brand/fintech-takes/] And for more exclusive insider content, don’t forget to check out my YouTube page [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos]. Follow Alex:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexhjohnson [https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexhjohnson] Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/AlexH_Johnson [https://www.twitter.com/AlexH_Johnson] Follow Mark: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matroughton/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/matroughton/] Learn more about Chime here: https://www.chimeprime.com/ [https://www.chimeprime.com/]