BONUS: Are Dentists Scamming Us? Cross-Post From No Such Thing

Eight Tons of Epstein Files

For a limited time only, all 3.5 million law enforcement documents related to the investigation of Jeffrey Epstein are on display at a pop-up reading room in New York. David Garrett, one of the exhibition’s organizers, joins Elise and Jena to explain the Donald J. Trump and Jeffrey Epstein Memorial Reading Room, the motivation behind the exhibition, and the scale that can be conveyed by printing and binding eight tons of files. Mentioned in the episode YouTube: House Oversight Dems hearing in Florida  [https://www.reddit.com/r/Epstein/?f=flair_name%3A%22News%20article%22] NPR: Howard Lutnick is Questioned  [https://www.npr.org/2026/05/06/nx-s1-5814081/howard-lutnick-epstein-files-house-oversight-committee] The Guardian: Virginia Giuffre wins British book prize with Sarah Wynn-Williams [https://www.theguardian.com/books/2026/may/11/sarah-wynn-williams-and-virginia-giuffre-jointly-win-freedom-to-publish-prize-at-british-book-awards] The New Republic [https://newrepublic.com/post/210269/epstein-friend-pierce-great-time-girls-trump-event]: Epstein Friend Who Had “Great Time With Girls” At Trump Event Time [https://time.com/article/2026/05/11/whats-inside-new-government-ufo-files/]: The Pentagon just released the UFO files The Institute for Primary Facts [https://primary-facts.org/contact] Join our Patreon community at Patreon.com/EpsteinFilesBookclub [http://patreon.com/EpsteinFilesBookclub] Email us anytime at eliseandjena [at] gmail dot com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices [https://megaphone.fm/adchoices]

Secrets Near Santa Fe with Alisa Valdes-Rodriguez

We had more questions about Zorro Ranch, so New Mexico-based journalist Alisa Valdes Rodriguez joins the show to give us the lowdown on why investigators never seemed to look too closely at Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislane Maxwell’s Western outpost. Also, a lot of Epstein-related headlines this week as Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick faced Congressional questioning, and the House Oversight Chair didn’t rule out a pardon for convicted child sex trafficker Maxwell. Mentioned in this Episode NPR: Howard Lutnick is Questioned  [https://www.npr.org/2026/05/06/nx-s1-5814081/howard-lutnick-epstein-files-house-oversight-committee] The Hill: Pam Bondi to Testify [https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5854810-pam-bondi-epstein-files-testify/] Miami Herald: Pulitzer Prizes Honor Julie K. Brown [https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article315628789.html#storylink=cpy]  Pulitzer Citation of Julie K Brown [https://www.pulitzer.org/winners/julie-k-brown] CNN: Ghislane Maxwell’s guilty convictions [https://edition.cnn.com/2021/12/29/us/ghislaine-maxwell-trial-wednesday/index.html] Politico: House Oversight interview of Ted Waitt [https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2026/04/30/congress/new-epstein-testimony-00901322] IBT: Bard College President Steps Down [https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/bard-college-president-resigns-epstein-investigation-1794785] The Pugilist with Alisa Valdes-Rodriguez [https://alisav.substack.com/], on Substack New Mexico DOJ: Zorro Ranch and Jeffrey Epstein investigation [https://nmdoj.gov/get-help/epstein-zorro-tips/] Reuters: Local survivors come forward in New Mexico [https://www.reuters.com/world/us/new-mexico-probes-epstein-local-survivors-come-forward-2026-04-27/] Join our Patreon community at Patreon.com/EpsteinFilesBookclub [http://patreon.com/EpsteinFilesBookclub] Email us anytime at eliseandjena [at] gmail dot com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices [https://megaphone.fm/adchoices]

BONUS: Are Dentists Scamming Us? Cross-Post From No Such Thing

Elise and Jena will be sharing their Epstein reading as usual this Friday, but while you wait, we have a feed drop of another show you might like: NO SUCH THING is a show where three best friends and journalists settle dumb arguments by actually doing the research.  In today's edition, they ask: Are dentists scamming us? It happens to be an interest of EFBC's, as well, given Epstein's girlfriend at the time of his death, Karyna Shuliak, is a certified dentist in the U.S. Virgin Islands. And New Mexico. hWVoFNlQBaZlt91vNxXS Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices [https://megaphone.fm/adchoices]

Dude Ranch and Gates Keepers

This week, Jena and Elise each select a part of the sprawling Epstein network to do a little further reading. Jena explains what we know about Epstein’s former property in New Mexico, Zorro Ranch. Elise breaks down the connections between Bill Gates and Epstein, as well as The Gates Foundation and Epstein. Mentioned in this episode: CBS: 60 Minutes interview with Donald Trump [https://www.instagram.com/reel/DXnQNS3Ec8B/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==] Click on Detroit: Ford worker calls Trump a pedophile protector [https://www.clickondetroit.com/video/news/2026/01/14/ford-rouge-worker-calls-trump-pedophile-protector-president-responds-with-middle-finger/] The Independent [https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/crime/jeffrey-epstein-zorro-ranch-new-mexico-b2966231.html]: Abuse of boys on Zorro Ranch  Mitch the Lawyer Substack: Katie Phang partners with former federal prosecutor [https://mitchthelawyer.substack.com/p/katie-phang-just-filed-the-lawsuit-bbb] Carrie Johnson episode of EFBC [https://www.epsteinfilesbookclub.com/better-call-todd-blanche/] USA Today [https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2026/04/28/what-does-8647-mean-what-to-know-about-james-comey-indictment/89842950007/]: Former FBI Director James Comey indicted again NYT [https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/28/nyregion/maurene-comey-lawsuit-trump.html]: Maurene Comey suing the administration Time: [https://time.com/7379228/epstein-zorro-ranch-investigation/] New Investigation Launched into Epstein’s Zorro Ranch New Mexico House Resolution 1 [https://www.nmlegis.gov/Sessions/26%20Regular/resolutions/house/HR01.pdf](which authorized the ranch investigation) DOJ: Anonymous email detailing “two foreign girls” deaths [https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA01250229.pdf] 60 Minutes Australia Chauntae Davies interview [https://www.reddit.com/r/Epstein/comments/1sy0nux/epstein_survivor_chauntae_davies_alleges_girls_at/] Texas Tribune [https://www.texastribune.org/2026/02/13/don-huffines-jeffrey-epstein-ranch-new-mexico-texas/]: Huffines buys Zorro Ranch in 2023 NM DOJ statement [https://nmdoj.gov/press-release/statement-from-the-new-mexico-department-of-justice-regarding-zorro-ranch/] on Zorro ranch investigation Alisa Valdes-Rodriguez Substack [https://substack.com/@alisavaldes] NPR [https://www.npr.org/2026/02/03/nx-s1-5697080/melinda-french-gates-reacts-to-ex-husband-bill-gates-being-mentioned-in-epstein-files]: Melinda Gates reacts to Bill Gates details in files Fortune Magazine [https://fortune.com/2026/03/14/epstein-bankrolled-bill-gates-mistress-doj-documents-playing-with-fire/]: Playing with Fire - How Epstein Bankrolled Gates’ Mistress NYT: [https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/24/technology/jeffrey-epstein-microsoft-executives.html]How Jeffrey Epstein Ingratiated Himself With Top Microsoft Executives Vanity Fair: [https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/gates-foundation-epstein-files?srsltid=AfmBOoq5UtGzYvLI3JwX4yDYrRCjBM5AdBfhGYqwfV_NU0nZqZhosrP0] Jeffrey Epstein’s Longtime Grip on the Gates Foundation BBC: [https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5yg8yrypejo] Norway police investigate diplomat over Jeffrey Epstein links Rep Maxwell Frost episode of EFBC [https://www.epsteinfilesbookclub.com/oversight-needs-oversight-with-rep-maxwell-frost/] Join our Patreon at patreon.com/epsteinfilesbookclub [http://patreon.com/epsteinfilesbookclub] where we have a running chat with the community and video episodes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices [https://megaphone.fm/adchoices]

Oversight Needs Oversight with Rep. Maxwell Frost

House Oversight Committee member Rep. Maxwell Frost, D-FL, joins the show to explain why (and who is responsible for) the holdup in getting former Attorney General Pam Bondi to testify about her handling of the Epstein files, what the public could do to help the investigations move forward, and the vision he has for justice when it comes to this sprawling scandal. The Daily Beast [https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-fed-goon-cornered-on-financial-ties-to-epstein/]: Warren Grills Trump’s Fed Pick The CoverUp [https://epsteincoverup.us/report/the-woman-who-knows-too-much-an-ungaro/]: Amanda Ungaro interview Scripps News [https://www.scrippsnews.com/us-news/crime/epstein-files/high-profile-figures-insiders-set-to-testify-in-epstein-probe]: High profile figures set to testify on Epstein files Reuters [https://www.reuters.com/world/us/virginia-giuffres-family-still-seeks-justice-year-after-her-death-2026-04-23/]: Giuffre Family Still Seeks Justice A Year After Her Death WSJ [https://www.wsj.com/business/gates-foundation-to-cut-20-of-staff-review-epstein-ties-6df2ccea]: Gates Foundation to Cut 20% of Staff Representative Maxwell Frost [https://frost.house.gov/] Oversight Chair James Comer [https://comer.house.gov/contact] Frost post on Reddit [https://www.reddit.com/r/Epstein/comments/1r19pws/im_congressman_maxwell_alejandro_frost_and/]: What files have you found that I should review? Join our Patreon community at Patreon.com/EpsteinFilesBookclub [http://patreon.com/EpsteinFilesBookclub] Email us anytime at eliseandjena [at] gmail dot com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices [https://megaphone.fm/adchoices]