Hamilton Vs Burr

How Eleanor Roosevelt And JFK Turned Conflict Into Partnership

Eleanor Roosevelt and John F. Kennedy don’t sound like a natural pairing and that’s exactly why we wanted to sit with this story. We talk with presidential historian Barbara Perry of UVA’s Miller Center about her forthcoming book, Reconcilable Differences: The Unlikely Political Alliance of John F. Kennedy and Eleanor Roosevelt, and what it reveals about political courage when your toughest critic is inside your own party.  We start at Hyde Park and Val-Kill, where a single photo of Eleanor walking with JFK opens up years of tension: generational divides, party faction fights, and a clash over what leadership should look like in public. We dig into the hard stuff Eleanor wouldn’t let go, from civil rights and anti-lynching efforts to McCarthyism and the cost of staying silent. Barbara shares the moments that surprised her most, including Eleanor’s sharp telegrams and JFK’s steady, almost stubborn respect for her voice.  Then we follow what happens when disagreement turns into partnership. Eleanor pushes from the outside with unmatched influence as a media figure and power broker, while Kennedy navigates Congress, the New Frontier agenda, and the slow build toward a meaningful civil rights stance. We also explore Eleanor’s impact at the United Nations through the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, plus the overlooked Kennedy era work on women’s equality, including the President’s Commission on the Status of Women and the path to the Equal Pay Act.  If political division feels permanent, this conversation offers a different model: principled pressure, reluctant compromise, and real civic responsibility. Subscribe for more, share this with a friend who loves American history, and leave a review with the biggest lesson you’re taking from Eleanor and JFK. Check Out the Civic Literacy Curriculum [https://civics.asu.edu/civic-literacy-curriculum]! School of Civic and Economic Thought and Leadership [https://scetl.asu.edu/] Center for American Civics [https://civics.asu.edu/]

Jackie Kennedy: First Lady of the New Frontier

A First Lady can’t sign bills, command troops, or issue executive orders, yet Jacqueline Kennedy still reshaped American civic life. We sit down with Barbara Perry, presidential historian at the University of Virginia’s Miller Center and author of *Jacqueline Kennedy: First Lady of the New Frontier*, to look past the fashion headlines and get into the real mechanics of Jackie’s influence.  We talk about her hands-on role in the White House restoration and why she obsesses over details that most people would never notice. Barbara shares how Jackie helps create the first modern White House guidebook and builds the kind of public history infrastructure that keeps working long after one administration ends. We also explore a bigger argument: in the middle of the Cold War, culture is not fluff. Jackie’s vision of the White House as an icon becomes a form of American soft power, aimed at showing the world what democracy looks like when it takes its own story seriously.  Then we turn to the harder truths: intense press attention, young motherhood, difficult pregnancies, personal loss, and the private strain of living in a public “goldfish bowl.” We discuss the courage and message-making that follow Dallas, including how Jackie helps shape the nation’s mourning through symbolism and planning. And yes, we end with something that humanizes the Kennedys in the best way: the pets, the gifted puppies, and the surprisingly diplomatic role of a family menagerie.  If you care about presidential history, civic culture, or leadership without elected office, listen now and tell us what detail changed the way you see Jackie Kennedy. Subscribe, share with a friend, and leave a review so more listeners can find the show. Check Out the Civic Literacy Curriculum [https://civics.asu.edu/civic-literacy-curriculum]! School of Civic and Economic Thought and Leadership [https://scetl.asu.edu/] Center for American Civics [https://civics.asu.edu/]

Dolly Madison’s Hidden Power

Dolly Madison is famous for saving a portrait, but that’s the smallest part of her story. We sit down with Dr. Lindsay Cormack, political scientist and Director of the Diplomacy Lab at Stevens Institute of Technology, to look at Dolly as a builder of American civic culture and one of the most influential figures of the early republic. She didn’t hold office, she didn’t sign founding documents, and she still helped make the United States feel real, legitimate, and durable through the power of relationships, symbols, and public rituals. We dig into how Dolly effectively defines what we now think of as the First Lady’s role, from hosting to shaping norms in Washington, DC. Her Wednesday night “crushes” weren’t just parties, they were political infrastructure: a space where supporters and opponents could talk, trade information, and become human to each other outside the pressure of legislative combat. We also explore why that “soft power” is no less real than votes and bills, even if it’s harder to measure. Then we pull the thread into the present. Dr. Cormac calls it civic care: convening people, building bridges, keeping community going after elections, and doing the unglamorous work that sustains democracy between news cycles. If you’ve ever felt powerless because you’re not running for office, Dolly Madison offers a different model of civic engagement that still works. Subscribe, share this with a friend who loves history and politics, and leave a review. What’s one act of civic care you think our communities need right now? Check Out the Civic Literacy Curriculum [https://civics.asu.edu/civic-literacy-curriculum]! School of Civic and Economic Thought and Leadership [https://scetl.asu.edu/] Center for American Civics [https://civics.asu.edu/]

Hamilton Vs Burr

A sitting vice president shoots a Founding Father, the Constitution gets rewritten because of a botched election, and a rivalry that starts as professional respect ends in blood. That’s the real historical arc behind Hamilton and Burr, and it’s even more complicated than the musical makes it look. We’re joined by Dr. Stephen Knott, historian and author who studied Hamilton long before pop culture made him a household name. Together, we map the early connection between Alexander Hamilton and Aaron Burr as Revolutionary War veterans and New York City lawyers, then follow the moments where politics turns personal. The Senate race that stings, the grudges that harden, and the campaign tactics that push both men toward a public breaking point all matter because early American politics runs on reputation as much as policy. From there, we dig into the election of 1800, the Electoral College tie, and the House vote that triggers the 12th Amendment. We talk about why Hamilton urges support for Jefferson over Burr, what that says about party politics and principle, and how “all ambition, no principle” becomes a lens for understanding Burr’s choices. Finally, we unpack the duel itself, what dueling rules often aimed for, why Burr’s shot changes everything, and what happens next: indictment, a troubled journey west, and a treason trial that ends in acquittal but not redemption. If you care about US history, constitutional amendments, the Electoral College, or the true story behind Hamilton vs Burr, this conversation connects the dots. Subscribe, share this with a history-minded friend, and leave a review with your take on Burr: calculating villain or complicated product of his era? Check Out the Civic Literacy Curriculum [https://civics.asu.edu/civic-literacy-curriculum]! School of Civic and Economic Thought and Leadership [https://scetl.asu.edu/] Center for American Civics [https://civics.asu.edu/]

Place Shapes Civics

Your city is not just where you live. It is a political education you walk through every day. We sit down with Dr. John Harner, professor of geography and environmental studies, to connect cultural geography to civic engagement in the United States. We unpack what “place” really means, including place identity (the image a community projects through architecture, branding, and design rules) and sense of place (the personal ties that make us feel rooted). When those pieces work together, people feel valued, connected, and more willing to show up for local politics, volunteer work, and community problem-solving. Then we follow the thread into the built environment: public spaces that welcome everyone versus landscapes that exclude. We talk about placelessness, the spread of disposable, look-alike development, and how car-centered suburban design can weaken a sense of belonging. From there, we explore how politics can shape place through regulation, sprawl, and privatized enclaves, and how those landscapes can reinforce ideas about property, public services, and community responsibility. We also zoom out to economic and social forces, linking spatial mobility to social mobility through housing choice, transportation access, and opportunity. Finally, we turn to border regions and the US-Mexico border as dynamic spaces where identity, citizenship, and political boundaries are constantly negotiated, and where proximity can foster empathy and compromise. If you want smarter conversations about urban planning, civic life, and how place shapes political identity, listen now, then subscribe, share this episode with a friend, and leave a review. What place has shaped your worldview the most? Check Out the Civic Literacy Curriculum [https://civics.asu.edu/civic-literacy-curriculum]! School of Civic and Economic Thought and Leadership [https://scetl.asu.edu/] Center for American Civics [https://civics.asu.edu/]