6 × 6lock Podcast
What if the biggest threat to your firm's next capital call isn't a hacker — it's a nation-state intelligence operation running enterprise-grade AI? On this episode of the 6 x 6lock Podcast, Mike Langford and Peter Steppe are joined by Vivek Ahuja [https://www.linkedin.com/in/vivahuja/], Director of FinTech & Financial Institution Partnerships at Persona [https://withpersona.com/] — the identity verification platform that powers 6lock's KYC, KYB, and fraud prevention infrastructure. Vivek's path to this conversation is unlike anyone else's in the space. He started as a nuclear submarine officer, went on to co-found a payments company in Southeast Asia, built fraud systems at Affirm when buy-now-pay-later had no rulebook, worked inside Marqeta, and led revenue at SentiLink — one of the country's most respected synthetic identity fraud detection companies. What he learned along the way: fraud has first principles, and most private equity firms are violating all of them. In this episode: * Why every new payment method creates a new fraud vector — and why AI is accelerating that cycle faster than ever * The first principles of fraud that nobody teaches in school (because there's no PhD program for this) * Why private equity sits at the most dangerous intersection in all of financial services: high dollar, high frequency, high urgency — and critically under-protected * How 6lock and Persona work together to tie identity to every transaction before a dollar moves * The shift from fooling humans to fooling the humans' AI — and what that means for agentic commerce * Why the adversary targeting your firm isn't a teenager in a basement — it's an organized, state-sponsored operation thinking in ROI and probability of capture Mike also references a recent episode with Stanton Ray of Columbia Threadneedle [https://www.6lock.com/podcast/moving-billions-manually-inside-private-credits-operational-infrastructure-gap] on the operational realities of moving billions in private credit — worth a listen if you haven't caught it yet. And if you've ever been tempted to mess with a scammer who's texting you, Vivek has a word of warning. Mike references the legendary James Veitch TED Talk [https://www.ted.com/embed/james_veitch_this_is_what_happens_when_you_reply_to_spam_email] — funny as it is, Vivek explains exactly why engaging with bad actors, even sarcastically, is handing them data they'll use against you. Connect with our guests: Vivek Ahuja on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/vivahuja/] | Persona [https://withpersona.com/] Peter Steppe on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-e-steppe/] | 6lock [https://www.6lock.com/] Have a question or a topic suggestion? Email us at podcast@6lock.com [podcast@6lock.com] Chapters: 00:00 - Introduction 02:30 - From Nuclear Submarines to The Fraud Lab 07:49 - First Principles of Fraud Protection 15:53 - Why Private Equity Firms Are Prime Targets for Fraud 20:17 - Identity Is the Infrastructure: How 6lock and Persona Work Together 25:10 - Are We Moving from Fooling the Human to Fooling the Human's AI? 34:24 - Nation-State Threats Are Private Equity's Problem Too
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