E25: Flocks and Footnotes: Discussing Prescribed Grazing with Mark Gutierrez of Pilot Creek Ranch

E30: Landed: The Next Hands on the Land, with Brooks Lamb (American Farmland Trust)

In this episode, I sit down with American Farmland Trust’s Brooks Lamb to unpack one of the biggest challenges facing agriculture today: the impending transition of 300 million acres of working lands to the next generation of farmers and ranchers. From aging farmers and skyrocketing land costs to succession planning, conservation easements, and the future of working lands, this conversation dives deep into the emotional and economic realities shaping rural America. Brooks shares stories of struggle, resilience, and innovation from farming communities across the country — and explains why protecting farmland isn’t just about food production, but also about wildlife habitat, community identity, and the future of conservation itself. We explore: * Why America is at risk of losing millions of acres of working lands * The emotional weight behind succession planning * How conservation can help keep farms and ranches intact * The rise of regenerative agriculture and next-generation stewardship * Why community connection matters more than ever * What all of this means even if you’ve never stepped foot on a farm This episode is a powerful reminder that the future of land, food, and community are deeply connected — and that saving farms starts one conversation at a time. If this episode resonates with you, be sure to check out AFT’s LANDED Podcast [http://www.farmland.org/landed]. The prologue is out now, and the first full episode drops June 2nd!

E29: The Million-Acre Man - Shelton Douthit: How Land Actually Gets Protected

On this episode I sit down with a man who’s helped protect over a million acres of land. But before you picture sweeping landscapes and pristine wilderness, let me stop you—because this story isn’t just about nature. It’s about deals. Contracts. Legal puzzles. And the kind of detective work that happens long before a trail ever opens to the public. From scrambling through decades-old land records, to uncovering buried hazards in the middle of nowhere, to closing high-stakes, high-speed conservation deals—This is the not-so-glamorous behind-the-scenes world of land protection that almost nobody sees. Because every park you’ve hiked, every open space you love…there’s a story behind how it was saved. And chances are its way more complicated than you think. This time on All Land is Beautiful I dive into that story with Shelton Douthit, the Million-Acre Man—a guy who didn’t set out to become a real estate expert but ended up mastering the art of conservation deals at a scale most people can’t even imagine. This is about how land gets saved—one negotiation, one title report, and sometimes, one hundred thousand acres at a time.

E28: They Held On, Someone Stepped In: Bringing Back the California Red-Legged Frog, with Rob Grasso (Yosemite NP)

In this episode, I sit down with Yosemite National Park Aquatic Ecologist, Rob Grasso, to unpack the unlikely comeback of the California red-legged frog—a species that nearly vanished from the Sierra Nevada. From a childhood spent watching wetlands disappear in New Jersey to leading one of Yosemite National Park’s most ambitious restoration efforts, Rob shares the winding path that led him to this work—and the moment he realized there may be hope for these frogs after all. What follows is a story of persistence, partnership, and a bit of luck. We dig into the surprising history behind the frog’s decline, from overharvesting during the Gold Rush to invasive species and habitat loss, and explore how a hidden population in the foothills became the key to bringing them back. With the help of unlikely collaborators—including private landowners, the Yosemite Conservancy [https://yosemite.org/], and the San Francisco Zoo [https://www.sfzoo.org/local-conservation-efforts-2/]—thousands of frogs were carefully reared and reintroduced into Yosemite after a 70-year absence. But success wasn’t guaranteed. Rob walks us through the risks, setbacks, and small wins that defined the project—from the first frog released into the wild to the moment they realized the species was breeding again on its own. At its core, this episode is about more than just one frog. It’s about what happens when a species holds on just long enough for us to notice—and what it takes for us to step in and help it recover.

E27: The Dirt on Saving Dirt, with Erin Tarr of the Bear Yuba Land Trust

In this episode, I sit down with Erin Tarr, Executive Director of the Bear Yuba Land Trust [https://www.bylt.org/], to explore how community-driven conservation is shaping the future of the Sierra foothills. From our conversation in Grass Valley, we dive into the challenges and opportunities of protecting land in a rapidly growing region where rural landscapes, outdoor recreation, and development pressures collide. Erin shares how the land trust’s work goes far beyond protecting open space — from building connected trail systems and securing farmland for local food production to preserving wildlife habitat and responding directly to community needs. We explore the evolving role of modern land trusts, the importance of access to nature, and how conservation can strengthen local economies, support farmers, and create lasting community spaces. The conversation also unpacks the realities behind conservation work: building trust with landowners, navigating limited funding, balancing recreation with habitat protection, and acting quickly when opportunities arise. Along the way, we discuss Forever Farms [https://www.bylt.org/foreverfarms/], trail connectivity, cultural partnerships, and a bold vision to connect landscapes between the Bear and Yuba River watersheds. This episode offers a behind-the-scenes look at how local conservation happens — one project, one partnership, and one community conversation at a time. In this episode, we discuss: • How land trusts are evolving to meet community needs • The power of trails and access to nature in rural communities • Protecting local farms and securing food systems • Balancing development pressures with habitat conservation • Building connected landscapes for wildlife and people A thoughtful conversation about conservation, community, and the lasting impact of protecting the places where we live.

E26: Small Land Trust, Big Landscape with Ellie Routt of the Mother Lode Land Trust

In this episode, I sit down with Ellie Routt, executive director of the Mother Lode Land Trust [https://www.motherlodelandtrust.org/] (MLLT), to explore the unique character and on-the-ground work of a land trust serving some of California’s most rural counties—Tuolumne, Alpine, Calaveras, Amador, and El Dorado. Ellie offers a look into the organization’s distinct, community-driven approach to conservation and how it shapes both the land and the people who depend on it. We talk about their flagship property, the C & C Ranch—more than protected open space, it’s a community hub that hosts programs and partnerships ranging from biking and gardening, to art and outdoor education. Ellie also highlights MLLT’s commitment to preserving the region’s cultural and historical heritage, ensuring these landscapes remain vital to local identity. Unlike many land trusts that transfer conserved properties to public agencies, MLLT retains direct stewardship, allowing them to manage, restore, and protect these lands with long-term continuity. Looking ahead, projects like their planned acquisition near Kirkwood Ski Resort aim to expand public access and educational opportunities while safeguarding important natural areas. This conversation underscores the power of locally led conservation and the outsized impact small land trusts can have in strengthening communities, protecting landscapes, and keeping regional heritage alive.