Expect Chaos
In this episode of Expect Chaos, we sit down with Congresswoman Sarah McBride, Delaware’s at-large representative, for a conversation that’s equal parts real talk and roadmap for making change when the world feels chaotic and change seems impossible. Sarah walks us through the moments that brought her into public service—finding hope in the story of progress, navigating grief, and choosing to step into the arena even when personal safety was a real concern. We talk about what it actually takes to govern: showing up, listening, doing the unglamorous work, and building coalitions without losing your values. Along the way, we dig into the attention economy, why outrage is a trap, and why “be curious, not judgmental” (we share a mutual love of Ted Lasso) might be one of the most practical pieces of advice for anyone trying to lead, persuade, or just survive this moment with their humanity intact. If you’re enjoying Expect Chaos, subscribe to get episodes straight to your inbox! This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit m2aspire.substack.com [https://m2aspire.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1]
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