Facts Over Fear
The New Surveillance State: What’s Going on with ICE in California City? Before we dive into today’s conversation, it’s worth noting one of the more uplifting political stories coming out of California. Reality TV star Spencer Pratt is OUT as a potential mayoral candidate for Los Angeles after a third-place finish in the Los Angeles mayoral race after initially competing for a runoff spot. The Trump-backed candidate built much of his campaign around frustration with the city’s political establishment and support for aggressive immigration enforcement, but as more ballots were counted, progressive candidate Nithya Raman overtook him for second place. Whether you agree with Pratt or not, his decline highlights something many politicians are learning the hard way: in Los Angeles, public anger over housing, affordability, and homelessness does not automatically translate into support for expanded ICE operations or hardline immigration policies. That brings us to today’s guest. Award-winning journalist, Ben Camacho, has spent years documenting the machinery of immigration enforcement in California. His reporting often focuses not on the headlines, but on the systems quietly expanding behind them. First, we’ll discuss his investigation into CoreCivic and California City, which revealed how the private prison giant sought to maintain operations at an ICE detention facility despite legal questions surrounding permits and state law restrictions on immigration detention facilities. The reporting raises important questions about the relationship between local governments, private prison corporations, and federal immigration enforcement. Then we’ll turn to an even broader issue: surveillance. Ben’s reporting on Flock license plate reader technology explores how massive amounts of vehicle location data are being collected, stored, and shared among law enforcement agencies across the country. Supporters argue these systems help solve crimes. Critics warn they are creating a growing surveillance network with limited public oversight and few guardrails around how data is used. Together, these stories tell a larger story about modern power. Immigration enforcement is no longer just about detention centers. Surveillance is no longer just about cameras. Increasingly, both are becoming part of the same infrastructure that's built on data collection, information sharing, and expanding state capacity. The question isn’t simply whether these tools work. The question is who controls them, who watches them, and what happens when systems built for extraordinary circumstances become permanent features of everyday life. NOTE: After doing some research, it seems to be ‘unclear’ as to how many Flock cameras there are. I saw reports of 80,000 all the way to 106,000 in use currently. Source: InkFree News cited well over 100,000+ FOLLOW NATALIE substack: https://substack.com/@factsoverfearnatalieb instagram: https://www.instagram.com/@nataliebencivenga/# tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@nataliebencivenga threads: https://www.threads.com/@nataliebencivenga podcast via spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/47JYsn9LQchErS3cnHP2YF podcast via apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/facts-over-fear/id1855901950 FACTS OVER FEAR Let's dismantle the fear that is used to divide us surrounding the issues impacting the people and talk facts. ABOUT NATALIE Natalie Bencivenga is a socially-conscious journalist working towards building equity in our communities through storytelling. Her goal is to inspire, educate and activate people to become catalysts for positive change. Join her for transformative conversations that uplift and challenge the ways in which we perceive the world. Let's turn this moment into a movement – together.
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