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Human-First Leadership in a Burnout Culture

Kathy Eastwood started her career as a CPA at EY, thinking business was run entirely by numbers, routines, and standard structures. But when she left public accounting for the tech world, she hit a wall that completely flipped her perspective on corporate change. She was running a project management implementation, teaching teams how to build airtight dependency chains and work breakdown structures. During a session, a client sponsor raised his hand and asked a simple question: "How do you actually get someone to do these tasks?" Kathy answered with the confidence of a young executive: "Well, they're assigned to it. They'll do it." The sponsor smiled and shook his head. "No, they won't. What if they don't report to you? What if this isn't their priority?" That single moment shattered the illusion of "command and control" management for Kathy. She realized you can have the most beautiful Smartsheet or Google Sheet in the world, but if you don't understand the human being behind the keyboard—their motivations, their stresses, and their personal "Why"—the project is dead on arrival. On this episode of I'm Up He See's Me I'm Down, Mike Turner and Kathy dive deep into why human-first leadership always beats task-performance at all costs, and how the best leaders build teams that protect them from the top down.

Science, spirituality, and human connection

Roxanne Chaput is a leadership steward and architect of courageous conversations focused on helping founders, executives, and influential leaders navigate the deeper internal dimensions of leadership. Her work centers on what she calls the “inner architecture of leadership,” exploring how unresolved emotional patterns, fragmentation, fear, and misuse of power quietly shape organizational culture and decision-making. Drawing from her experience building businesses internationally and stewarding more than 20,000 leaders globally, Roxanne helps leaders move beyond reactive leadership into grounded stewardship rooted in self-awareness, discernment, compassion, and responsibility. She is widely recognized for bridging leadership, spirituality, consciousness, emotional healing, and human-centered leadership into conversations that challenge fear-based leadership models and advocate for leadership grounded in humanity and integrity.

Remember no one can stop you but YOU!

Albert Butler is a CPA, partner at his firm, and a thought leader focused on helping individuals and business owners build true clarity—not just in their finances, but in their lives. His work centers around the idea that you can’t scale a business until you learn how to scale yourself. Beyond the numbers, Albert brings a deeper mission—helping people build legacy, govern their lives intentionally, and understand the true role money plays in the bigger picture. His perspective was shaped not just through his career, but through life experiences, including a major injury that forced him to slow down and ultimately led him to write a book centered on truth, love, loss, success, and failure.

Twice Broken, Still Standing — Rebuilding Life, Leadership, and Purpose After Cancer

In this inspiring episode, Savio Clemente shares his remarkable journey through cancer, resilience, and leadership. Discover how he navigated life-threatening health challenges, embraced faith, and turned adversity into purpose, offering valuable lessons for leaders and individuals alike. keywords resilience, leadership, cancer, faith, wellness, mental health, personal growth, healthcare innovation, emotional intelligence, transformation key topics Cancer journey and resilience The Aloha framework for healing Faith and spirituality in recovery Leadership after crisis and relapse guest name Savio Clemente key frameworks Aloha Framework action items Practice the Aloha framework: acknowledge, listen, open, harness, act with courage. Use silence and stillness to connect with your inner messages. Share your wisdom freely to foster growth in others. Approach health and leadership with a holistic, non-linear perspective. Titles From Cancer to Leadership: Savio Clemente's Resilience Journey The Middle Way: Navigating Life and Illness with Savio Clemente sound bites "Lean into the discomfort, don't avoid it" "Share your wisdom freely to empower others" "Find common ground beyond polarization" Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Resilience and Leadership 03:14 Savio's Early Life and Career Journey 06:03 Facing Cancer: The First Diagnosis 08:52 The Journey Through Treatment and Recovery 12:03 The Second Cancer Diagnosis and Its Challenges 14:55 Exploring Faith and Belief Systems 17:48 Integrating Healing Modalities and Personal Growth 23:07 Reframing Cancer Treatment 28:15 Leadership Through Crisis 33:07 The Role of Humanity in Healthcare 39:21 Lessons from Cancer and Leadership 43:37 Finding Clarity in Chaos resources Savio Clemente's Website - https://aviopclementi.com [https://www.saviopclemente.com/] Twitter - https://twitter.com/humanresolve [https://twitter.com/humanresolve] LinkedIn - https://linkedin.com/in/savioclemente [https://www.linkedin.com/in/saviopclemente/]

The Five C’s of Influence: From Rock Bottom to a Stage That Pays

The conversation covers a range of topics including life-changing habits, influential books, career pivots, journalism, media integrity, teaching in inner city Los Angeles, and mindset and attitude. The speakers discuss the impact of pivots in their careers and lives, the challenges of journalism and the importance of media integrity, the experience of teaching in inner city Los Angeles, and the significance of mindset and attitude in leadership and personal development. The conversation delves into the importance of mindset and positive influence, highlighting the impact of storytelling in leadership and communication. It emphasizes the power of a positive mindset and the nurturing of a supportive environment. Additionally, it explores the significance of storytelling in leadership, communication, and public speaking, emphasizing the use of relatable, authoritative, and purposeful storytelling to engage and connect with audiences. Takeaways * Pivots * Journalism vs. Commentary * Teaching Experience * Mindset Positive mindset * The power of storytelling Chapters * 00:00 Mindset and Attitude