You Escaped One Narcissist… And Walked Straight Into Another

Why You Don't Know Who You Are Anymore After Narcissistic Abuse with Bill Eddy

You were kind, agreeable, willing to compromise — and somewhere along the way, you stopped recognizing yourself. If you've left a narcissistic relationship unsure what you like, what you want, or whether you can trust your own memory, this episode gives you the language for why. Chelsey talks with Bill Eddy — attorney, therapist, mediator, and author of 20+ books including Splitting — about how narcissistic abuse erodes your sense of self, and how to rebuild it. Bill shares his ERII theory (Emotional Repetition In Isolation) — the slow chipping away that keeps people trapped — and why the most agreeable, empathetic people are so often the targets. Then it gets practical: the BIFF method (Brief, Informative, Friendly, Firm) for handling hostile messages without getting hooked, how to describe a high-conflict co-parent in court without the word "narcissist," and a preview of Bill's newest book, SLIC Solutions, on setting limits and imposing consequences. Whether you're still in it, recently out, or co-parenting with someone who makes every exchange a battle, you'll leave with tools you can use today. ABOUT BILL Bill Eddy, LCSW, Esq. is the co-founder and Director of Innovation of the High Conflict Institute based in Scottsdale, Arizona. For 12 years he was a child and family therapist (as a Licensed Clinical Social Worker), then he was a lawyer representing clients in family courts (as a Certified Family Law Specialist) for 15 years, and finally he was the Senior Family Mediator at the National Conflict Resolution Center for 15 years. He has been a speaker and trainer in over 40 U.S. states and 14 countries. He is the author or co-author of over 20 books, manuals, and workbooks, including High Conflict People in Legal Disputes, BIFF for CoParent Communication, and SPLITTING: Protecting Yourself While Divorcing Someone with Borderline or Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Connect with Bill: 👉 www.HighConflictInstitute.com [http://www.highconflictinstitute.com/] 👉 www.ConflictInfluencer.com [http://www.conflictinfluencer.com/] 👉 www.UnhookedBooks.com [http://www.unhookedbooks.com/] ABOUT CHELSEY Chelsey Brooke Cole is a licensed psychotherapist and certified partner trauma therapist helping people trust themselves again after narcissistic abuse. She's the author of the best-selling book If Only I'd Known! How to Outsmart Narcissists, Set Guilt-Free Boundaries, and Create Unshakeable Self-Worth. She hosts the Restoring Resilience podcast and guides survivors to healing through her signature program, Rewired for Resilience: Reclaiming Yourself After Narcissistic Abuse. Her work has been featured in USA Today, HuffPost, Psychology Today, and other media outlets. You can learn more about working with Chelsey or her resources at www.chelseybrookecole.com [http://www.chelseybrookecole.com/] Chelsey's Resources If this episode resonated with you, here are a few ways to go deeper: ✨ Free Masterclass: The Narcissist's Playbook Understand the exact patterns narcissists use—and why it's so hard to see clearly when you're in it 👉 https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/the-narcissists-playbook/ [https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/the-narcissists-playbook/] 🧠 Free Quizzes: Is It Narcissistic Abuse? Not sure what you're dealing with? Take a free 2-minute quiz to get clarity now 👉 https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/quizzes/ [https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/quizzes/] ✨ Rewired for Resilience (Healing Program) Go beyond awareness and start rebuilding self-trust, emotional safety, and clarity from the inside out 👉 https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/rewired-for-resilience/ [https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/rewired-for-resilience/] 📖 Read the First Chapter of My Book (Free) 👉 https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/firstchapterfree/ [https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/firstchapterfree/] 🌐 Website 👉 https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/ [https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/] (0:00) Introduction & Guest Overview (0:47) How Narcissists Erode Your Sense of Self (5:25) External Obstacles Keeping People Trapped (13:11) Self-Talk & Affirmations While Still in the Relationship (17:55) The BIFF Method Explained (25:18) How to Present Your Case in Court (29:05) Telling Your Story First in Family Court (31:29) SLIC: Setting Limits & Imposing Consequences (40:09) One Step to Restore Resilience Today

The 3-Stage System Narcissists Use to Pick Their Target

Have you ever looked back and thought, "He saw exactly what I needed... and used it against me"? That gut feeling isn't paranoia — it's accurate. In this episode, psychotherapist Chelsey Brooke Cole breaks down the dark psychology behind how narcissists and predators actually choose their targets, and the answer might surprise you: predators don't go after the weak, they go after the warm. Chelsey walks through the 3-stage system predators use to lock someone in — the Scan, the Test, and the Mirror — and the 4 specific traits they're consistently looking for: empathy, a tendency to overexplain, unresolved wounds, and a strong discomfort with conflict. If you've spent years blaming yourself for "not seeing it sooner" or wondering why you were chosen, this episode reframes the entire story. You'll also walk away with 4 practical ways to make yourself a harder target going forward. ABOUT CHELSEY Chelsey Brooke Cole is a licensed psychotherapist and certified partner trauma therapist helping people trust themselves again after narcissistic abuse. She's the author of the best-selling book If Only I'd Known! How to Outsmart Narcissists, Set Guilt-Free Boundaries, and Create Unshakeable Self-Worth. She hosts the Restoring Resilience podcast and guides survivors to healing through her signature program, Rewired for Resilience: Reclaiming Yourself After Narcissistic Abuse. Her work has been featured in USA Today, HuffPost, Psychology Today, and other media outlets. You can learn more about working with Chelsey or her resources at www.chelseybrookecole.com [http://www.chelseybrookecole.com/] Resources & Next Steps If this episode resonated with you, here are a few ways to go deeper: ✨ Free Masterclass: The Narcissist's Playbook Understand the exact patterns narcissists use—and why it's so hard to see clearly when you're in it 👉 https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/the-narcissists-playbook/ [https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/the-narcissists-playbook/] 🧠 Free Quizzes: Is It Narcissistic Abuse? Not sure what you're dealing with? Take a free 2-minute quiz to get clarity now 👉 https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/quizzes/ [https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/quizzes/] ✨ Rewired for Resilience (Healing Program) Go beyond awareness and start rebuilding self-trust, emotional safety, and clarity from the inside out 👉 https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/rewired-for-resilience/ [https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/rewired-for-resilience/] 📖 Read the First Chapter of My Book (Free) 👉 https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/firstchapterfree/ [https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/firstchapterfree/] 🌐 Website 👉 https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/ [https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/] (0:00) Introduction – Was It Really Your Fault? (0:37) What Is Dark Psychology? (2:04) The Biggest Lie Survivors Tell Themselves (3:41) Why Predators Target the Warm, Not the Weak (5:24) Stage 1: The Scan (7:32) Stage 2: The Test (12:51) Stage 3: The Mirror (17:47) Empathy Is Not the Problem (18:51) The Narcissist Playbook (Free Masterclass) (19:31) The 4 Traits Predators Look For (26:37) How to Protect Yourself Going Forward (28:09) The Reframe: You Survived a System (28:13) Recap & Closing

He Designed the Abuse Specifically for You — with Kate Anthony

You can't catch a covert abuser with a checklist. They don't follow a script — they follow you. Divorce coach Kate Anthony spent years deciding the definition of emotional abuse didn't fit her marriage — because her ex was never overt. The harm was quieter: a slow, tailored erosion of her sense of self that no bullet list could capture. In this conversation, Kate explains why the checklist keeps survivors stuck and offers the one question that actually cuts through — not "does he match the signs?" but "how do I feel in this relationship?" We also unpack why couples therapy is contraindicated when there's abuse, how betrayal blindness and fight-or-flight block clear decision-making, and why "should I stay or go?" can't be answered until you reconnect to yourself first. ABOUT KATE Kate Anthony is a certified high-conflict divorce coach, Domestic Violence Advocate, and the author of The D-Word: Making the Ultimate Decision About Your Marriage. Through her top-ranked podcast The Divorce Survival Guide and her coaching programs, she helps women break free from coercive control and rebuild their lives with clarity and confidence. The D Word: Making the Ultimate Decision About Your Marriage -- https://a.co/d/0e8Z9b6E [https://a.co/d/0e8Z9b6E] Learn more about Kate: https://kateanthony.com/ [https://kateanthony.com/] ABOUT CHELSEY Chelsey Brooke Cole is a licensed psychotherapist and certified partner trauma therapist helping people trust themselves again after narcissistic abuse. She's the author of the best-selling book If Only I'd Known! How to Outsmart Narcissists, Set Guilt-Free Boundaries, and Create Unshakeable Self-Worth. She hosts the Restoring Resilience podcast and guides survivors to healing through her signature program, Rewired for Resilience: Reclaiming Yourself After Narcissistic Abuse. Her work has been featured in USA Today, HuffPost, Psychology Today, and other media outlets. You can learn more about working with Chelsey or her resources at www.chelseybrookecole.com [http://www.chelseybrookecole.com/] Resources & Next Steps If this episode resonated with you, here are a few ways to go deeper: ✨ Free Masterclass: The Narcissist's Playbook Understand the exact patterns narcissists use—and why it's so hard to see clearly when you're in it 👉 https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/the-narcissists-playbook/ [https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/the-narcissists-playbook/] 🧠 Free Quizzes: Is It Narcissistic Abuse? Not sure what you're dealing with? Take a free 2-minute quiz to get clarity now 👉 https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/quizzes/ [https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/quizzes/] ✨ Rewired for Resilience (Healing Program) Go beyond awareness and start rebuilding self-trust, emotional safety, and clarity from the inside out 👉 https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/rewired-for-resilience/ [https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/rewired-for-resilience/] 📖 Read the First Chapter of My Book (Free) 👉 https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/firstchapterfree/ [https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/firstchapterfree/] 🌐 Website 👉 https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/ [https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/] (0:00) Introduction – Covert Abuse & Kate's Story (1:21) Guest Welcome & Background (2:26) Kate's Personal Experience with Emotional Abuse (7:43) Why Couples Therapy Fails in Abusive Relationships (11:17) Signs of Coercive Control: Feel, Don't Investigate (14:30) The Checklist Trap & Why We Stay Confused (18:40) We Don't Want to Leave – The Pull to Stay (19:56) Betrayal Blindness & the Brain's Self-Protection (22:11) Kate's Book: The D Word & the Stay-or-Go Decision (25:36) Recognizing the Red Flags in Real Time (27:25) Women Aren't Responsible for Men's Healing (29:40) Intentional Targeting by Abusers (32:47) There Is Hope – Healthy Relationships Do Exist (33:13) One Thing to Do Today: Breathe & Come Back to Self (35:41) Wrap-Up & Where to Find Kate

They're Always in Control: A Therapist's 30-Year Study of Male Abusers

"He never lost his temper. He chose it." Don Hennessy spent more than three decades sitting across from male intimate abusers — and what they taught him upends nearly everything we assume about how abuse works. In this episode, Don Hennessy — former Clinical Director of Ireland's National Domestic Violence Intervention Project and author of Steps to Freedom: Escaping Intimate Control — explains the mind of the abuser he calls the "psychophile": a man who invades his partner's thinking deliberately, then hides the intent behind chaos, charm, and blame. You'll learn: * How abusers select a target in as little as 30 minutes, and the qualities they scan for * Why "he was out of control" is the most successful lie an abuser tells * The transfer of blame that keeps a woman examining herself instead of him * How sexual entitlement sits at the center, with every other tactic working as a distraction * Why your intuition was never lost — and how to start hearing it again A clear, unflinching look at coercive control — and a reminder that you don't have to understand an abuser to be free of him. You just have to stop him. ABOUT DON Don Hennessy has been working in the area of male intimate abuse for more than 30 years. He was a founding member of the Cork domestic violence project in 1991. He also served as clinical director of the National Domestic Violence Intervention project in Ireland for 15 years. He has published 3 books on the issue which analyse the action of the male abuser (who he names a psychephile) and how a target woman might recover her own instincts. He has addressed conferences in England, Northern Ireland, Spain and Greece. He continues to work with target women. 📖 Books: 👉 How He Gets Into Her Head: The Mind of the Male Intimate Abuser https://www.amazon.com/How-Gets-Into-Her-Head/dp/1855942208 [https://www.amazon.com/How-Gets-Into-Her-Head/dp/1855942208] 👉 Steps to Freedom: Escaping Intimate Control https://www.amazon.com/Steps-Freedom-Escaping-Intimate-Control-ebook/dp/B07C5D7H3F [https://www.amazon.com/Steps-Freedom-Escaping-Intimate-Control-ebook/dp/B07C5D7H3F] 👉 How He Wins: Abusive Intimate Partners Going Free https://www.amazon.com/How-He-Wins-Intimate-Partners-ebook/dp/B08PF74VS2 [https://www.amazon.com/How-He-Wins-Intimate-Partners-ebook/dp/B08PF74VS2] ABOUT CHELSEY Chelsey Brooke Cole is a licensed psychotherapist and certified partner trauma therapist helping people trust themselves again after narcissistic abuse. She's the author of the best-selling book If Only I'd Known! How to Outsmart Narcissists, Set Guilt-Free Boundaries, and Create Unshakeable Self-Worth. She hosts the Restoring Resilience podcast and guides survivors to healing through her signature program, Rewired for Resilience: Reclaiming Yourself After Narcissistic Abuse. Her work has been featured in USA Today, HuffPost, Psychology Today, and other media outlets. You can learn more about working with Chelsey or her resources at www.chelseybrookecole.com [http://www.chelseybrookecole.com/] Resources & Next Steps If this episode resonated with you, here are a few ways to go deeper: ✨ Free Masterclass: The Narcissist's Playbook Understand the exact patterns narcissists use—and why it's so hard to see clearly when you're in it 👉 https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/the-narcissists-playbook/ [https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/the-narcissists-playbook/] 🧠 Free Quizzes: Is It Narcissistic Abuse? Not sure what you're dealing with? Take a free 2-minute quiz to get clarity now 👉 https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/quizzes/ [https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/quizzes/] ✨ Rewired for Resilience (Healing Program) Go beyond awareness and start rebuilding self-trust, emotional safety, and clarity from the inside out 👉 https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/rewired-for-resilience/ [https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/rewired-for-resilience/] 📖 Read the First Chapter of My Book (Free) 👉 https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/firstchapterfree/ [https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/firstchapterfree/] 🌐 Website 👉 https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/ [https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/] (0:00) Introduction & Guest Overview (1:20) Don's Background & How He Got Into This Work (4:36) What Abusers Taught Us: They're Always in Control (9:00) Defining the "Psychophile": Why This Term? (10:18) The Shift from Physical to Mental Control (14:43) How Abusers Target & Assess Their Victims (18:13) The Setup: How Abusers Establish Control (21:06) The Omnipresent Voice & Silencing Your Intuition (24:12) Coercive Control: A Psychological Prison (25:26) Cobras vs. Pit Bulls: Types of Abusers (27:55) The Core: Sexual Dominance & Entitlement (30:53) Shame, Sexuality & What's Not Talked About (34:35) Can Abusers Change? (37:39) Steps to Freedom: Reclaiming Your Intuition (40:17) Final Advice: One Thing to Begin Healing (41:33) Where to Find Don & Closing

She Knew the Red Flags & Still Got Trapped: Dr. Kerry McAvoy's Narcissistic Abuse Story

Can a psychologist fall victim to a narcissist? Dr. Kerry McAvoy says yes — and she lived it. In this powerful episode, Kerry shares her personal journey of narcissistic abuse recovery after losing her husband to cancer and being targeted by a predatory partner who used coercive control to trap her. If you've ever doubted yourself in a toxic relationship or wondered how to spot a narcissist before it's too late, this conversation is for you. 🎙️ In this episode, you'll learn: * Why even mental health professionals can miss the red flags in relationships * How predators target agreeable personality types — and what makes you a target * The difference between manufactured confidence and real competence * How to make yourself "disinteresting" to narcissistic personalities * Why trusting your gut is the #1 skill for surviving narcissistic abuse * How to rebuild self-worth and become your own best friend after abuse Kerry McAvoy, PhD is a psychologist, author, and narcissistic abuse survivor whose story proves that knowledge alone isn't protection — but self-trust is. Have you ever ignored your gut in a relationship? What happened? 🔔 Subscribe for weekly conversations on healing from toxic relationship signs, setting boundaries, and reclaiming your life after NPD abuse. ABOUT CHELSEY Chelsey Brooke Cole is a licensed psychotherapist and certified partner trauma therapist helping people trust themselves again after narcissistic abuse. She's the author of the best-selling book If Only I'd Known! How to Outsmart Narcissists, Set Guilt-Free Boundaries, and Create Unshakeable Self-Worth. She hosts the Restoring Resilience podcast and guides survivors to healing through her signature program, Rewired for Resilience: Reclaiming Yourself After Narcissistic Abuse. Her work has been featured in USA Today, HuffPost, Psychology Today, and other media outlets. You can learn more about working with Chelsey or her resources at www.chelseybrookecole.com [http://www.chelseybrookecole.com/] ABOUT KERRY Kerry Kerr McAvoy, Ph.D., a retired psychologist and author, is an expert on cultivating healthy relationships and deconstructing narcissism. Her blogs have been featured in Mamami, YourTango, Scary Mommy, and The Good Men Project. In Love You More, Dr. McAvoy gives an uncensored glimpse into her survival of narcissistic abuse, and her workbooks, First Steps to Leaving a Narcissist and Surviving to Thriving, helps victims break free and heal from abusive relationships. She hosts the Breaking Free from Narcissistic Abuse podcast and offers trauma-related advice on social media. YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@kerrymcavoyphd [https://youtube.com/@kerrymcavoyphd] Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kerrymcavoyphd [https://www.facebook.com/kerrymcavoyphd] Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kerrymcavoyphd/ [https://www.instagram.com/kerrymcavoyphd/] TikTok: https://vm.tiktok.com/TTPdjuTrnV/ [https://vm.tiktok.com/TTPdjuTrnV/] Website: https://kerrymcavoyphd.com [https://kerrymcavoyphd.com/] Love You More, memoir: Love You More: The Harrowing Tale of Lies, Sex Addiction, & Double Cross [https://a.co/d/5b2PaIh] ReclaimYou app: https://studio.com/drkerry/ [https://studio.com/drkerry/] Resources & Next Steps If this episode resonated with you, here are a few ways to go deeper: ✨ Free Masterclass: The Narcissist's Playbook Understand the exact patterns narcissists use—and why it's so hard to see clearly when you're in it 👉 https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/the-narcissists-playbook/ [https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/the-narcissists-playbook/] 🧠 Free Quizzes: Is It Narcissistic Abuse? Not sure what you're dealing with? Take a free 2-minute quiz to get clarity now 👉 https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/quizzes/ [https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/quizzes/] ✨ Rewired for Resilience (Healing Program) Go beyond awareness and start rebuilding self-trust, emotional safety, and clarity from the inside out 👉 https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/rewired-for-resilience/ [https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/rewired-for-resilience/] 📖 Read the First Chapter of My Book (Free) 👉 https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/firstchapterfree/ [https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/firstchapterfree/] 🌐 Website 👉 https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/ [https://www.chelseybrookecole.com/] (00:00) Introduction: Kerry McAvoy's Journey From Psychologist to Survivor Advocate (02:35) The Relationship That Changed Everything: Falling for a Narcissist (05:15) Why Even Therapists Miss the Warning Signs of Narcissistic Abuse (08:10) Love Bombing, Trauma Bonding, and the Slow Erosion of Reality (12:15) "I Thought I Could Help Him": The Empathy Trap Survivors Fall Into (16:30) Why Leaving Isn't as Simple as "Just Walk Away" (20:05) Who Narcissists Target and Why Highly Empathic People Are Vulnerable (24:10) The Hidden Traits That Make You a Target for Manipulation (28:05) How Narcissists View Relationships: Asset, Enemy, or Threat (32:40) Why Survivors Miss the Person They Thought They Knew (36:50) The Grief of Letting Go of the Future You Imagined (40:20) Can Narcissists Change? The Truth Survivors Need to Hear (45:30) Spiritual Abuse, Charisma, and Why We Ignore Red Flags (49:40) Rebuilding Trust in Yourself After Narcissistic Abuse (54:50) A Powerful Visualization for Strengthening Boundaries (59:40) Finding Your Inner Light and Returning to Yourself (1:03:05) Kerry McAvoy's Advice for Survivors: Become Your Own Friend (1:03:35) Where to Find Kerry McAvoy's Books, Podcast, and Resources