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Wyndham Clark on What It Actually Felt Like to Win With the Crowd Against Him

19 min · 25 de jun de 2026
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Wyndham Clark — I Loved Silencing the Crowd. The Full Post-Win Interview. Get up to $200 off Square hardware when you sign up at square.com/go/WINGO #squarepod #sponsored Head to cozyearth.com and use code WINGO for an exclusive 20% off. Two days after winning his second US Open at Shinnecock Hills, Wyndham Clark sat down with Trey Wingo for a full in-person conversation. No press conference setting. No rushed post-round questions. Just an honest, wide-ranging interview with a two-time US Open champion who has a lot to say about what the last week — and the last year — actually looked like from the inside. The Second One Justifies the First When Wyndham won his first US Open at LACC in 2023, people celebrated it. And then he played poorly in 2025 and the narrative shifted. It was a fluke. He got lucky. Maybe the first one does not really count. He heard all of it. And he carried it to Shinnecock. Trey references the Max Homa line — the second one justifies the first. Wyndham agrees without hesitation. Now winning twice, with Scotty Scheffler in his group chasing the career grand slam and Sam Burns charging from behind on Sunday — nobody can call it a fluke anymore. The second US Open does not just validate the first. It reframes everything. The Crowd Wyndham was genuinely surprised by the level of it. He expected Oakmont questions. He gets those every week and they have become white noise — almost funny at this point. But the actual behavior at Shinnecock was something different. Cheering when his ball went in the bunker. Cheering when he missed a putt. Not clapping when he did something good. Wanting his ball to roll off the green. He says he has never experienced anything like that outside of a Ryder Cup. The American part surprised him most. The week before at the RBC Canadian Open he wore a Jack Hughes USA jersey and chirped the Canadians about winning the gold medal in hockey. He figured New Yorkers who love their country would look at that and think — this guy is one of us. Instead the hostility was real and it was sustained. And then comes the line that defines the entire weekend. I loved silencing the crowd. Not tolerated it. Not survived it. Loved it. He played other sports growing up. He knows what it feels like to be at the free throw line with everyone booing against you and drain both free throws anyway. That is who he is competitively. And at Shinnecock on Sunday, that competitive wiring was the difference between fumbling a six-stroke lead and closing it out. He also notes — after the tournament, doing media runs at the New York Stock Exchange, so many people came up to apologize. Manhattan people, he says, are not Long Island people. He is a West Coast guy. He is pleading the fifth on the full Long Island situation. But the apologies were real. Holding the Lead for 72 Hours Wyndham took the outright lead at approximately 7 PM Friday evening and never gave it back. Trey asks what the most impressive thing he did across those four days was — and Wyndham's answer is not about the golf shots. It is about the mental game. He says if he was not as seasoned a player, if he did not have the confidence he has built recently, he thinks he might have fumbled it. Having the fans against him on Sunday while not playing his best ball and carrying a six-stroke lead — that is a pressure cocktail that breaks a lot of players. He had blinders on. He kept his head. And he credits the mental work he has done over the last year for making that possible. Sam Burns Pulling Within One Wyndham did not love seeing it. He knew someone was going to get close — he was a couple over on the front nine and made what he calls a dumb bogey on eight. His caddy told him on 12 that they still had a three-shot lead. And then from 12 onward he became fully leaderboard aware — do we need to be aggressive, do we need to be conservative, what does this hole demand? When it got to one shot on 16, he made a decision. He could have chipped out and played for bogey. That still would have left him with 240 to 250 yards in on a hard hole where bogey is easily possible. He decided to go for it. Not because he thought he would make birdie. Because laying up still left a dangerous shot. And then the wind caught the putt on 16 and it just kept going and going until it dropped. The Putter Wyndham traces the hot stretch back specifically to the RBC Heritage at Hilton Head — where he switched to a longer and heavier putter. He could feel it on the putting green immediately. The eight footers for birdie and the ten footers for par that he had been missing all year started falling. It peaked at the CJ Byron Nelson where he shot 11-under 60 on Sunday. And it never came back down. His description of the 16th hole birdie putt at Shinnecock is perfect — he was not trying to make it. It was downhill, significantly, with wind helping it toward the hole. He thought he left it short. It just kept going. He says the hole has been big for about two months. And for two months, that has been enough. Mental Health and Therapy This is the most revealing exchange in the entire conversation. Trey asks directly — how much did going through therapy and working on his mental health help him deal with the pressure of Sunday at Shinnecock? Wyndham's answer is striking and honest. Dealing with the aftermath of the Oakmont locker room incident — the embarrassment, the shame, the very public fallout — was significantly harder than dealing with a hostile gallery at the US Open. The crowd on Sunday was fun. It was a competitive challenge he could rise to. The shame of a public mistake and having to sit with it, work through it in therapy, and come out the other side — that was the real test. And once he got through it, he felt like he could handle almost anything golf was going to throw at him. The Oakmont Incident He has said it multiple times. He made a mistake. He is hoping people have some forgiveness. And then he says the line that frames the entire interview — that was definitely my worst moment. I just came off one of my best moments. He hopes people look at both and decide that one bad moment does not define who someone is. Trey's take — winning is the ultimate deodorant. As long as you keep winning, the narrative changes. And with two US Opens now on the resume, the locker room moment is becoming a footnote to a career that is still being written. Consistency Going Forward His major championship record outside the two wins has been uneven — wins, cuts, a T26, a T4. Wyndham is honest about why. His ball striking got off in 2025. He has done significant work with his new coach Pat to fix it. The first two rounds at Shinnecock showed what that work looks like when it clicks. The weekend was managed with the putter and the short game. But the ball striking foundation is what he believes is going to make him consistently dangerous at major championships going forward. The Custom Leaderboard Trey shows Wyndham a custom Masters leaderboard the Wingo Network built — same leaderboard, names replaced by descriptors. Rory was "Grand Slammer going for the Masters repeat." Scotty was "Should have gotten relief at Oakmont." And Wyndham was "US Open Champ, dislikes lockers." Wyndham's reaction — at least they put US Open Champ first. And then, hearing his new Shinnecock descriptor, he says simply: I love that. Hates lockers. He can laugh about it now. That is the clearest sign of all that the work is done. What Comes Next Not yet 30 years old. Two US Opens. Five PGA Tour wins since 2023. A putter that has been the hottest in professional golf for two months. A mental foundation built through real therapy work. And a competitive fire that genuinely enjoyed winning with a hostile crowd rooting against him. Wyndham Clark is not done. This conversation makes that very clear. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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