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In this episode, Granger Forson is joined by Charlie Cadbury, the founder of Say It Now, a pioneering agency that bridges the gap between traditional media (TV and radio) and digital engagement using voice technology. Charlie shares the journey of his 19-year career in the agency space—from his early days running a 50-person web agency in Soho to the challenges of navigating the "voice 2.0" landscape with his current venture. The discussion explores how to build defensible tech, why "Key Person of Influence" strategies beat generic marketing, and how to differentiate yourself when the market feels crowded. Key Takeaways Voice-Enabled Advertising: Say It Now provides a platform that allows listeners/viewers to interact with ads via smart speakers, creating a real-time data feedback loop for brands like Tesco and Diageo . Building a "Data Lake": Charlie highlights that while software can be copied, proprietary data sets provide a "moat" that software alone cannot. He is racing to fill a data lake with consumer engagement insights that do not exist anywhere else. The "Key Person of Influence" Strategy: To differentiate in a crowded market, Charlie advocates for building the personal brand of the business leader. If you have 100 factories, people will choose the one with the smiling leader . Iterative Growth: After the collapse of his first 50-person agency due to cash flow issues, Charlie shifted his focus to leaner models and high-value partnerships, valuing "surprising brilliance" over raw headcount . The Power of Consistency: Even when you’re "bleeding edge," don't underestimate simple habits. Charlie has written a monthly newsletter for 15 years; it remains his most consistent tool for keeping warm leads engaged . The "Hurdle": Standing Out in a Crowded Market Many business owners struggle to differentiate themselves, often feeling they have to compete on price or buy "Google placement" to be heard. The Coaching Discussion & Proposed Experiments: Don't Sell the Business—Sell the Leader: Build a personal brand alongside the company. Use PR to become an "industry commentator" rather than just another service provider . The "Partnership Hack" for Quick Results: If you need immediate leads, find a non-competitive partner to create a joint research paper or case study. This "1+1=3" approach allows you to leverage each other's audiences for faster market penetration . Hygiene Content vs. Hero Content: Use a monthly newsletter as your "hygiene" piece to maintain relationships. It keeps you front-of-mind so that when a prospect is ready to buy, they already trust you . "Sharpening the Pencil": Networking events are one of the fastest ways to refine your pitch. If you have to explain what you do to 30 people in a room, you will naturally discover how to articulate your value more clearly . Charlie’s Insight on AI Distraction "The distraction piece is... because these tools are changing on a weekly basis, it doesn't necessarily mean that I need to change my working habits on a weekly basis. Distinguish the signal from the noise." Resource Links & Contact Info Website: sayitsnow.ai [http://sayitsnow.ai] LinkedIn: Charlie Cadbur [https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlescadbury/]
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