The Bethel School District Presents Podcast
On this week’s podcast, we hear about a grueling four-and-a-half-mile trek up an ash field that resulted in a mountain summit and a vow to never do it again. Plus, we learn how students are getting dirty, finding caterpillars, and taking ownership of their very own garden, as well as what books we should be reading this summer. As always, we’ve got useless trivia where we find out why you should always cite your sources, even when they come from a dusty, centuries-old book. --TRANSCRIPT-- This transcript was automatically generated by Gemini from the original audio file. While it aims for high accuracy, it may contain minor discrepancies from the original audio. Conor: Hey everybody, I'm Conor, that's Doug, and this is the Bethel School District presents podcast, the greatest podcast in the history of mankind. And we are on special assignment today. We're on location at beautiful Kapowsin Elementary and we're here to speak with teacher librarian Amy Dalin, who is a superstar out here, and we have a lot to talk about. But before we get into that, as we do, we always do our trivia—useless, sometimes useful, mostly useless. So Doug, you're my sidekick, why don't you start us off with some useless trivia? Doug: Well, I'm glad I picked mine because I didn't know we were recording in the library today. We just said pick a quiet spot and turns out your classroom is a quiet spot as teacher librarian. Mine is on the history of magazine publishing in these United States. The first magazine published in the United States was in 1741. There are actually two of them. They were kind of competitive. Andrew Bradford, his debut magazine American Magazine came out first, and he beat one Benjamin Franklin to the punch. Benjamin Franklin's General Magazine—terrible titles both of them. These came out three days apart with Bradford's beating him to the punch. Of course, you haven't heard of them because they didn't last very long. And so the first mass-circulation magazine that you would have heard about is the Saturday Evening Post. That came out in 1821 and printed until 1969. That's my useless trivia, Conor. Top that one. Conor: Yeah, I only read the National Enquirer, so I don't know about any of these other ones. But no, quality piece of useless trivia there, Douglas. Mine is animal-related. And while most people know there are packs of dogs and schools of fish, Douglas, did you know that a group of lemurs is officially known as a conspiracy, or a group of ferrets is a business? How about a parliament of owls or a flamboyance of flamingos? Yes, I could go on and on, and I will as a matter of fact. How about a bloat of hippos or an ambush of tigers, a shrewdness of apes? And you might be wondering who comes up with these wacky names? Doug: Who does make these up, Conor? Conor: Well, many of them can be traced back to 1480 from a book called The Book of Saint Albans, which was a landmark English book covering hawking, hunting, and heraldry. Source on that one is Mental Floss. Doug: Just a fantastic bit of alliteration at the end. Do you, Amy, in the Kapowsin library here have a copy of The Book of Saint Albans? Amy: I do not. I don't think we do. Doug: Oh, bummer. We gotta get you a copy. We gotta write off for one. Amy: I bet it's a great beach read. I'm sure the elementary kids will really love that. Conor: Well, Amy, thanks for joining us first, and let's hear your little bit of useless trivia. Amy: Okay, when I read the email, I really thought it was useless trivia about myself. Conor: That works too. There are no wrong answers. Amy: So, I'm really double-jointed in my elbows. So like, my elbows like, just completely bend inwards. Conor: So for our listeners, I'm gonna have to have you show us and then... oh my god, that is frightening. I wasn't gonna go that far, but... is it painful? Amy: No, it looks like it should be, but no, it's not. It's just the way that it works. Doug: I love—well, that's your source. I didn't give my source actually, my source was Texas A&M by the way for my magazine trivia. We do like to source our useless trivia, and that's our contribution for the kids out there. Always cite your sources. Doug: So Amy, driving into Kapowsin Elementary, if people haven't been out here, it's right out on Meridian. You take a left on 264th, which is much farther than most people go, and there's the little Kapowsin Elementary school here that does amazing things for kids each and every day. And I pulled into my parking spot and Mount Rainier is basically sitting on my dashboard. It is beautiful today. It's blue skies, a couple of clouds just over the mountain. I had to take a picture, which is why I was late coming in, sorry about that. Appreciate Conor setting up everything in my absence. So our first question for you, when's the last time you've been to Mount Rainier and have you ever summited it? Amy: I have never summited Mount Rainier. I have been—we went a few months ago. We go to Mount Rainier a lot. We have a pass, and that was one of the first things that I noticed when I came to Kapowsin was just the view. Like, it is absolutely stunning here. I have summited Mount Saint Helens, and we summited that last year, last summer. Doug: Really? Amy: Yes, and I don't think I'll ever summit a mountain again. Conor: So, I have never summited a mountain and I hope I can say that for the rest of my life. For our listeners, what was so difficult about it? What made you not want to do it anymore? Amy: I definitely think we should have prepared more. I was like, oh, it's four and a half miles, like, we can do it. Doug: That sounds like just a hike. Sounds easy. Amy: Yeah, and I was like, that sounds easy enough. And then we get up and the last like two miles is all like ash fields. And so then you take one step forward and you slide three steps back, and it's just the entire way up. And then we got up to the crater and I was so excited, and of course it's like clouded. Like, we were like in a cloud. So you just like look in front of you and there's nothing. Like, and I was like, I'm so glad I did this today. Totally worth it. Doug: You got a good podcast story out of it. Amy: We do. Doug: It absolutely was. Well, Amy, you are a teacher librarian here at Kapowsin. How long have you been here in this role, and have you taught anywhere else in the district? Amy: This is my second year here as a teacher librarian. It's my second year as a librarian in total. I did teach in a different district, and I was actually a high school science teacher for three years before I made the transition to the library, which... Conor: To the greatest district of all time. Amy: In a great district. I really enjoyed it. Conor: I love the job of librarian. You're—one, you're around books obviously, which is a great benefit. One of the cool things about your job is you get to lead your school's Battle of the Books. Can you tell us what that's like? Amy: Yes, we actually this morning had our school battle. We had three really amazing teams. The kids did such a good job. And it's fun because yes, I have these kids in class, but it's fun to like get to see them outside of class and know their personality a little bit differently. And it's incredible to see these kids grow and get excited about books. That's why I became a librarian is I just, I saw a lot of kids just not being excited about books, and I was like, that's what I want to do. Doug: That is fantastic motivation. So at what point in your life did you get inspired to get into the field of teaching and librarianship? Amy: Yeah, I went to WSU and I got a degree in biology, and it was my senior year and I was like, what am I gonna do with a biology degree? And I had become a nursing assistant and I was thinking I was gonna go that track, and then I just really did not like it. And my grandmother was a teacher and I've done all these things growing up, and I had a wonderful high school social studies teacher, Mr. Hodis, who has now since passed. He really just inspired me to go into education. He was a rock during some really hard times in high school, and I wanted to be that for other kids. So I got to teach for three years for a high school and I loved every minute of it, and now I'm here and I've loved every minute of that too. So, I love education and I think it's a great field. Conor: That's amazing, and we love having people who love education being in our district and the ones leading our students. Conor: And I can only assume as someone who's chosen profession is to be among books that you love books. I'm gonna put you on the spot, what's your favorite book of all time? Children's or otherwise. Amy: A book that I constantly go back and reread would probably be Pride and Prejudice. I just love, love, love that story. Like, I could read it over and over again. It is just... I'm such a sucker for romance books. So... Doug: That's one I've never tackled even when Pride and Prejudice and Zombies came out, I still didn't... it still didn't get me. So, Conor you a Jane Austen fan? Conor: I've never read any Jane Austen books. I've seen lots of adaptations. I should read it. So Doug, while we're talking books, let's go around the horn. What's your favorite book of all time? Doug: The first one that comes to mind is John Steinbeck's Cannery Row. I love the scene that he sets and the characters and just the whole idea of that row, which is still there, I guess in Monterey you can visit it, but it's now changed from an old cannery at the end of the road to the aquarium. So that's a place I still want to go. I love Doc and all the different characters. Great book, great read. Conor: Yeah, I know you're a Steinbeck head because you've also—you've name-dropped him a couple of times on the pod. Doug: I have, because Travels with Charley is also one of my—one of my favorites. Yeah. Conor: Conor, over to you. You started this mess, now you gotta finish it. What's your favorite book of all time off the top of your head? Conor: I'm going to—it changes constantly, but since we've got kind of semi-problematic old white guys, I will go with Ernest Hemingway's A Moveable Feast. I've read it many, many times and as anyone who has visited Paris or wants to visit Paris, it's a very romantic idea of what that city is all about in a very romantic time. So I'll go with A Moveable Feast. Doug: That's a pretty good pick. I just read that last year actually, and I will say it's aiight. Conor: Okay, so not really the Doug endorsement on that one. The review is in. Doug: Well, Amy back over to you. It is getting to be the end of the school year here. We're not going to count the days, but what is it like for a teacher at the end of the school year? The kids I'm sure are getting squirrelly, the teachers are getting excited, and you still got stuff to teach. Like, what—what is that like for you here in the library? Amy: Yeah, I always like to say my classroom management style is like controlled chaos. Like, we teach little humans and they are hyper, like all the time. And I think that was a big adjustment from high school where the kids like don't talk to you and they're just like on their phones like heads down, but then you come here and they like want to be with you all the time and that was like a huge adjustment. And so I just love to say like controlled chaos. Like, we will be doing activities, but it'll probably be loud, and it'll probably get a little crazy. We like to take the kids outside to read sometimes, like when it's really beautiful. Just like, we have bins of books and I'm like, let's just go out, sit down on the grass and enjoy some sunshine and read some books. Doug: And put a book in your hand. That's—there's nothing better than that. Conor: Well, as if you didn't have enough to do, you are also in charge of running this school's very cool garden and the garden club. Can you tell us a little bit about that? Amy: Yeah, we have a really unique opportunity here. We have this beautiful garden out there, I don't know if you guys saw it when you guys drove in, and it was taken care of by a former employee who had retired and there just was an adjustment and a movement, and I have a science background and they were like, "What do you think if you started a gardening club?" And I was like, "Yeah, that sounds so fun," thinking like 10, 15 kids would like want to go out there. And then more and more and more permission slips got turned in and I was like, "Oh no." Now we have 70 amazing kiddos who joined gardening club. We had gardening club yesterday. Talk about controlled chaos, that is a great group of kiddos who are just really passionate and like... but they sometimes they finish so fast and they're like, "What's next? What's next?" And I just love that they like want to be outside. And I love that they want to be outside, they want to get dirty, they love finding bugs. Like, that is their favorite things. Yesterday they found caterpillars and they thought that was like the coolest thing they'd ever seen in their whole life. Amy: And so it's been great. We've had lots of community outreach. We've had, you know, people donate soil and seeds and their time. We've had lots of family volunteers. Yesterday the kids made seed bombs that are currently drying over there for our staff appreciation. Like I said, we're just taking it one day at a time. I think it's a little chaotic out there, and they planted yesterday for the first time, the seed starters that we did and we'll see if they survive, but they did it on their own and that's what's really important is that that is their garden, that is the Kapowsin students' garden, and I'm just more here to make sure we're all safe. Doug: I love—I mean what a great hands-on opportunity for the kids to get out there and you said get dirty and just get some of that energy out and then also learn about how how nature works and finding those different bugs and all those seed—seed bombs did you call them? Amy: Yeah, they're called seed bombs. They're literally paper, like wet paper, and you put seeds in them and mold them, and then you let them dry and then you can literally like chuck them in your yard and they grow great plants. Doug: That's awesome. So it's like wildflowers and things like that? Amy: Yeah, wildflowers. The different colors are different seeds, cause I didn't want staff members to be like guessing what's going to grow in their yard. Doug: I was wondering about that. Yeah, so for our listeners we're looking at a table over there's a—there's a white sheet down for the drying and then just pink and blue and purple and green and yellow. I mean honestly Conor it looks like spitballs from when I was in school. Amy: They really do. Just add some seeds to it and look what you can grow. Conor: Exactly. Well that's very cool. And to wrap things up today since we rarely have the chance to speak with a real-life librarian, can you give us a couple summer reading recommendations either for kids or for adults, whatever strikes your fancy? Amy: Ooh, okay. For little kids, our Children's Choice Award books are being voted on this year, but The Bakery Dragon is probably one of like my top favorites. It is so beautiful. The artwork in it is beautiful. Great for young kids. For like middle-aged kids, Four Eyes is a graphic novel that is amazing and that's actually one of our battle books. And for adults, I just think if you have a book that you want to read, just read. I am a firm believer in reading what you want. Project Hail Mary just came out in theaters and that is an excellent book. I would recommend that one. Doug: I—I can also recommend that one. Fantastic book. And we'll go around the table again here real quick. What is a book, Conor we'll start with you, that you saw yourself in as a young lad? Conor: So I didn't get serious about reading until I was in my late teens, early twenties, kind of college age. And the first book I remember reading where it wasn't that I saw myself but it kind of inspired me was Wonder Boys by Michael Chabon. And it's about a young—an older writer and a younger writer. I identified with the younger writer at the time, now I identify more with the older writer when I read it. But lovely book and it definitely sparked my interest in reading and writing. Doug: Interesting. That's—that's a good pick. Amy how about you? Amy: I don't know if I necessarily like always see myself in her, but I like destroyed reading the Nancy Drew series. Like all of them. And she's you know, this young girl that's like blonde and just smart and funny and very nosey I think. And so I definitely saw myself in Nancy Drew a bit growing up. Doug: Fantastic. I read a lot as a—as a young kid. We—my mom used to take us to the Carnegie Library in Pittsburgh and we'd get out whatever 10, 15, however many the max books you could get and I would have them all done in a week over the summer and really like that. So the ones that really I saw myself in was Encyclopedia Brown was a big one, and then Ramona and Beezus had a friend whose name was Henry Huggins, and I saw myself in him too, which is a—that's a deep cut for the Ramona and Beezus fans out there. Conor: Well this has been a really fun conversation. Thank you so much again to Amy Dalin for joining us today, teacher librarian extraordinaire over at Kapowsin Elementary school. And we are going to be back next week with another great episode. Thanks for joining us.
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