The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source

We’re on location at Microsoft Build 2025 with Amanda Silver, Corporate Vice President of Microsoft’s Developer Division. Amanda leads product, design, user research, and engineering systems for some of the tools you use every day. We discuss the latest AI announcements from Microsoft at Build 2025, how AI is reshaping development tools, what’s next for VS Code, TypeScript, GitHub’s evolution, and even emerging editors like Windsurf that are forking the VS Code ecosystem. Join the discussion [https://changelog.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/456187-interviews] Changelog++ [https://changelog.com/++] members save 8 minutes on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today! Sponsors: * Retool [https://retool.com/agents] – Assemble your elite AI team, arm them with powerful custom tools, and watch them make your to-do list disappear. Start for free or book a demo at retool.com/agents [https://retool.com/agents] * Heroku [https://www.heroku.com/changelogpodcast] – The Next Generation of Heroku “Fir” is coming soon — Fir is built on a foundation of cloud native technologies and open source standards, ensuring portability, interoperability, and a vibrant ecosystem for your applications. Cloud Native for everyone, for the next decade and beyond. * Outshift by Cisco [https://agntcy.org] – AGNTCY is an open source collective building the Internet of Agents. It’s a collaboration layer where AI agents can communicate, discover each other, and work across frameworks. For developers, this means standardized agent discovery tools, seamless protocols for inter-agent communication, and modular components to compose and scale multi-agent workflows. Featuring: * Amanda Silver – * Adam Stacoviak – Website [https://adamstacoviak.com/], GitHub [https://github.com/adamstac], LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamstacoviak], Mastodon [https://changelog.social/@adam], X [https://x.com/adamstac] * Jerod Santo – GitHub [https://github.com/jerodsanto], LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerodsanto], Mastodon [https://changelog.social/@jerod], X [https://x.com/jerodsanto] Show Notes: * Build 2025 [https://news.microsoft.com/build-2025/] Something missing or broken? PRs welcome! [https://github.com/thechangelog/show-notes/blob/master/podcast/the-changelog-644.md]

We’re doing a live show in Denver this July, Danilo Alonso has seen the ‘developer replacement’ hype cycle many times, Dan Sinker says we’re in the Who Cares Era, Cap looks like a solid alternative to typical CAPTCHA solutions, Michael Flarup on the return of texture, depth, and expressiveness in UI & Kan is an open source alternative to Trello. View the newsletter [https://changelog.com/news/147/email] Join the discussion [https://changelog.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/455469-news] Changelog++ [https://changelog.com/++] members save 1 minute on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today! Sponsors: * Retool [https://retool.com/changelog] – The low-code platform for developers to build internal tools — Some of the best teams out there trust Retool…Brex, Coinbase, Plaid, Doordash, LegalGenius, Amazon, Allbirds, Peloton, and so many more – the developers at these teams trust Retool as the platform to build their internal tools. Try it free at retool.com/changelog [https://retool.com/changelog] Featuring: * Jerod Santo – GitHub [https://github.com/jerodsanto], LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerodsanto], Mastodon [https://changelog.social/@jerod], X [https://x.com/jerodsanto]

We bring you back to Microsoft Build 2025 to nerd out with Craig Loewen on Windows Subsystem for Linux and Mads Torgersen on leading the design of C#. Join the discussion [https://changelog.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/455613-friends] Changelog++ [https://changelog.com/++] members get a bonus 7 minutes at the end of this episode and zero ads. Join today! Sponsors: * Heroku [https://www.heroku.com/changelogpodcast] – The Next Generation of Heroku “Fir” is coming soon — Fir is built on a foundation of cloud native technologies and open source standards, ensuring portability, interoperability, and a vibrant ecosystem for your applications. Cloud Native for everyone, for the next decade and beyond. * Depot [https://depot.dev] – 10x faster builds? Yes please. Build faster. Waste less time. Accelerate Docker image builds, and GitHub Actions workflows. Easily integrate with your existing CI provider and dev workflows to save hours of build time. Featuring: * Craig Loewen – Website [http://www.craigloewen.com], GitHub [https://github.com/craigaloewen], LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/craig-loewen], X [https://x.com/craigaloewen] * Mads Torgersen – GitHub [https://github.com/MadsTorgersen], LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/madst] * Jerod Santo – GitHub [https://github.com/jerodsanto], LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerodsanto], Mastodon [https://changelog.social/@jerod], X [https://x.com/jerodsanto] * Adam Stacoviak – Website [https://adamstacoviak.com/], GitHub [https://github.com/adamstac], LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamstacoviak], Mastodon [https://changelog.social/@adam], X [https://x.com/adamstac] Show Notes: * The Windows Subsystem for Linux is now open source [https://blogs.windows.com/windowsdeveloper/2025/05/19/the-windows-subsystem-for-linux-is-now-open-source/] * “Backslashes are Trash” by Mat Ryer on YouTube [https://youtu.be/pc-KKJUf3q4] Something missing or broken? PRs welcome! [https://github.com/thechangelog/show-notes/blob/master/friends/changelog--friends-95.md]

We’re joined by Andreas Møller, Co-founder of Nordcraft — the team behind Nordcraft Engine, a powerful new platform designed to give web developers what gaming developers have had for years. Andreas shares what inspired them to build Nordcraft Engine, why they believe the web is overdue for a shift in how we approach designing and building for the web, ee explore how the platform works, how you can get started, and what’s next for Nordcraft. Join the discussion [https://changelog.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/456187-interviews] Changelog++ [https://changelog.com/++] members save 6 minutes on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today! Sponsors: * Heroku [https://www.heroku.com/changelogpodcast] – The Next Generation of Heroku “Fir” is coming soon — Fir is built on a foundation of cloud native technologies and open source standards, ensuring portability, interoperability, and a vibrant ecosystem for your applications. Cloud Native for everyone, for the next decade and beyond. * Depot [https://depot.dev] – 10x faster builds? Yes please. Build faster. Waste less time. Accelerate Docker image builds, and GitHub Actions workflows. Easily integrate with your existing CI provider and dev workflows to save hours of build time. Featuring: * Andreas Møller – Website [https://nordcraft.com], GitHub [https://github.com/cullophid], X [https://x.com/cullophid] * Adam Stacoviak – Website [https://adamstacoviak.com/], GitHub [https://github.com/adamstac], LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamstacoviak], Mastodon [https://changelog.social/@adam], X [https://x.com/adamstac] * Jerod Santo – GitHub [https://github.com/jerodsanto], LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerodsanto], Mastodon [https://changelog.social/@jerod], X [https://x.com/jerodsanto] Show Notes: * Nordcraft.com [https://nordcraft.com] Something missing or broken? PRs welcome! [https://github.com/thechangelog/show-notes/blob/master/podcast/the-changelog-643.md]

The San Fransisco Standard published some sobering news for new graduates, the Forge team decided to put an AI agent in your shell, Fernando Borretti says you can choose tools that make you happy, Jujutsu’s flexibility and safety changed Nathan Witmer’s approach to version control, Anil Dash is as excited about MCP as almost everyone else is & Alex Kladov shares two rules of thumb around pushing “ifs” up and “fors” down. View the newsletter [https://changelog.com/news/146/email] Join the discussion [https://changelog.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/455469-news] Changelog++ [https://changelog.com/++] members save 1 minute on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today! Sponsors: * Depot [https://depot.dev] – 10x faster builds? Yes please. Build faster. Waste less time. Accelerate Docker image builds, and GitHub Actions workflows. Easily integrate with your existing CI provider and dev workflows to save hours of build time. Featuring: * Jerod Santo – GitHub [https://github.com/jerodsanto], LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerodsanto], Mastodon [https://changelog.social/@jerod], X [https://x.com/jerodsanto]