THE FLIP SIDE with Andy Mai

TFS#253 - Dr. Robert Glover, Author of "No More Mr. Nice Guy" on Why Being “Nice” Isn’t Always Good

Robert A. Glover is an American therapist, relationship coach, and author best known for his bestselling book No More Mr. Nice Guy. With over 30 years of experience, he has worked as a psychotherapist, educator, and speaker, helping individuals improve their relationships, confidence, and personal boundaries. He is widely recognized for introducing the concept of “Nice Guy Syndrome,” which describes people—especially men—who seek approval, avoid conflict, and suppress their own needs, often leading to frustration and unfulfilling relationships. His work focuses on helping people develop authenticity, set healthy boundaries, and create more balanced, fulfilling lives. Connect with Dr. Robert! https://drglover.comhttps://drglover.ai Dr. Robert's Men's Workshop: https://integrationnation.net CHAPTERS: 0:00 – Introduction 1:19 – Meet Dr. Robert Glover 3:24 – Does No More Mr. Nice Guy apply to women too? 5:38 – Is “Nice Guy Syndrome” actually common or growing? 7:33 – Robert shares how his book earns six-figure royalty checks 8:36 – Robert explains why there are still “Nice Guys” everywhere 10:51 – Andy talks about how he grew up as a people pleaser 12:16 – Andy shares a real-life example of setting boundaries at a friend’s birthday 14:46 – Robert on soothing his own anxiety and trying to fix others’ unhappiness 18:04 – Robert explains why people push back when you change (“change-back messages”) 21:44 – Robert talks about losing friends and the need to find new ones 25:08 – Robert discusses people-pleasing vs. genuine reciprocity 29:05 – Robert explains why you should be loved for who you are, not what you do 32:04 – Robert talks about stopping the chase for approval from unavailable or critical people 34:25 – Why women become more attracted when you’re less needy 35:30 – Robert’s realization from dating “nice girls” 37:23 – Robert discusses relationship “teeter-totters” and growth imbalances 43:16 – How to communicate to a friend that you’ve outgrown them 46:21 – Why most problems require a three-minute hard conversation 48:54 – How to have a difficult but honest conversation 51:39 – Robert explains why you shouldn’t analyze others and should focus on your own feelings instead 55:24 – Andy shares his struggles with holding back vs. being authentic 59:02 – Robert talks about having a persona called the “bitch behind the curtain” 1:01:44 – Should you call people out or stay silent? 1:04:21 – Robert discusses being honest and direct, even if people dislike it 1:09:35 – Why you’re usually wrong about what others think of you 1:15:02 – Robert talks about the reality of casual friendships as you get older 1:19:56 – Robert shares his religious beliefs and relationship with God 1:26:33 – How Robert shares wisdom with his kids 1:27:24 – How to communicate difficult conversations in relationships 1:31:52 – Robert explains how to give difficult feedback in relationships 1:34:25 – Should men always pay for dinner? 1:36:58 – Are relationships transactional? 1:40:41 – Robert shares how to find the right partner in life 1:41:39 – Robert shares how he met his wife 1:44:25 – Robert shares how to make a living from your passion 1:47:53 – Robert explains why you shouldn’t rely solely on passion and should keep your day job first 1:49:40 – Connect with Robert 1:50:21 - Outro

TFS#252 - George Gonzalez Working w/Oprah Winfrey as a Stylist & How He Grew His Salon 60+ Employees

George Gonzalez is a Chicago-based celebrity hairstylist and entrepreneur, and the founder of George the Salon, a luxury salon known for precision haircuts, coloring, and personalized beauty services. He spent more than a decade working as a stylist at Harpo Studios, including working with the salon and spa connected to Oprah Winfrey. Over the years, his salon has earned national recognition, including being named one of the Top 100 Salons in America by ELLE Magazine, while he has also expanded into his own beauty brand, I Am Georgeous. Beyond hairstyling, Gonzalez is known for empowering people through beauty and giving back through initiatives that help rebuild confidence and self-esteem. Connect with George Gonzalez! https://www.instagram.com/Iamgeorgegonzalez Visit His George The Salon! https://www.instagram.com/georgethesalon https://www.georgethesalon.com George The Salon's Product Line: https://www.instagram.com/Iamgorgeoushaircare https://www.iamgorgeous.com CHAPTERS: 0:00 – Introduction 0:59 – Meet George Gonzalez 2:27 – George talks about his podcast and product line, I Am Georgeous 5:56 – How George chooses guests for his podcast 7:13 – Andy talks about his podcast journey 11:49 – George talks about writing goals and affirmations 12:50 – George’s early life and discovering hairstyling at 18 15:10 – The importance of asking the right questions in life 16:32 – George talks about trusting intuition and inner guidance 19:02 – George talks about his hair product line 21:00 – George talks about marriage 22:44 – The mindset and goals needed to succeed as an entrepreneur 26:13 – George shares how reading Think and Grow Rich impacted his life 31:35 – George talks about finding a partner in life 36:50 – George shares his journey growing his salon business 41:51 – George talks about stylists leaving the salon and how he handles it 46:47 – Faith, mindset, and believing in a long-term vision 49:31 – Andy shares a social media strategy to grow George’s brand 53:07 – George and Andy discuss life purpose and meaningful work 1:00:22 – George on mentorship, brotherhood, and how faith in God shapes personal growth 1:06:54 – George talks about partnerships and sponsorships 1:11:09 – George talks about his personal hairstyle journey 1:13:28 – George talks about experimenting with hairstyles 1:15:59 – Who cuts George’s hair? 1:18:08 – How to find the right barber or stylist 1:19:19 – George's thoughts on Andy's different hairstyle 1:25:29 - George's thoughts on Andy’s instructions for his future barbers 1:34:15 – Andy talks about trading services for marketing exposure 1:36:32 – George talks about working with Oprah Winfrey 1:44:38 – George shares lessons from working with high-profile clients 1:48:42 – George’s recent life discoveries 1:53:06 – George’s goals and focus for the next six months 1:57:57 – Connect with George 1:59:55 – Outro

TFS#251 - Scott Yang Founder of OzBargain, 20-Yr Journey Building Australia’s Biggest Deal Community

Scott Yang is an Australian software engineer and entrepreneur best known as the founder of OzBargain, one of Australia’s largest and most popular online bargain-hunter communities. He launched the site in November 2006 as a part-time project to share deals with others, and it has since grown into a major community platform with millions of monthly visitors and an active forum where users share and vote on the best discounts and offers. Known for his hands-on technical expertise and commitment to transparency, Scott continues to run OzBargain independently while maintaining its mission of helping Australians save money. scotty@ozbargain.com.au https://www.ozbargain.com.au CHAPTERS: 0:00 – Introduction 1:21 – Andy shares that he’s used OzBargain since he was 15 1:45 – Scott shares how OzBargain started 5:36 – Hiring employees and defining the scope of their roles 8:28 – How deal review queues work on OzBargain 10:26 – How strong deals reach the homepage and low-quality deals get downvoted 11:57 – How he handles stress while running OzBargain 15:03 – How OzBargain’s business model differs from Amazon 18:13 – Why people continue to use OzBargain for many years 19:22 – How OzBargain’s community was formed through the forums 20:03 – How they organize OzBargain’s community meetup events 22:57 –How people react when they meet him in person for the first time 24:17 – Thoughts on AI 27:03 – How the OzBargain community has remained strong for the past 20 years 30:44 – Scott talks about other bargain communities that inspire him 32:32 – How transparent OzBargain is regarding moderation decisions 34:20 – Best idea they’ve implemented that made a huge impact on OzBargain 36:53 – How banner ads make up 70% of their revenue 41:08 – How affiliate links work on the OzBargain website 44:41 – Competition within OzBargain 46:39 – OzBargain’s different site sections 49:46 – How 30% of users browse with ad blockers 52:25 – OzBargain’s CPM compared to other websites 53:54 – New Zealand and Singapore sites 56:37 – Why visiting OzBargain has become a daily habit for many people 59:29 – Price errors in OzBargain’s live section 1:01:39 – The best deal Scott has come across in 20 years on his own platform 1:02:43 – OzBargain’s cashback partners 1:04:09 – Optimizing contest points 1:05:31 – Flight deals on OzBargain 1:07:11 – How they manage new and old user accounts 1:09:43 – Benefits of having an older OzBargain account 1:12:35 – How they handle scammers on OzBargain 1:16:46 – OzBargain’s moderation workflow 1:19:35 – How they handle fluctuating moderation workloads 1:24:23 – How he delegates tasks to his team 1:25:41 – How he retains employees long-term 1:28:23 – Using time-tracking tools for employees 1:29:31 – How they handle 160k newsletter subscribers 1:32:45 – Running their own email servers 1:36:43 – How he juggles technical issues alone 1:39:21 – How he handles website issues while on vacation 1:41:42 – Receiving legal letters from McDonald’s and Subway 1:44:58 – How their team handles negative reviews on the site 1:47:24 – How they create the daily newsletters 1:48:54 – How they increase website traffic 1:50:20 – Scott shares that many people are interested in buying OzBargain 1:51:25 – Why Scott doesn’t want to sell OzBargain yet 1:56:28 – Why the community stays active and loyal 1:57:51 – Future plans for OzBargain 1:59:26 – From a 9–5 job to running OzBargain full-time 2:01:42 – Other startups he built before OzBargain 2:03:55 – Scott’s reflections on his purpose in life 2:07:01 – Running routine 2:09:41 – Scott shares where he gets all his running shoes 2:10:22 – Scott’s thoughts on investments 2:11:58 – Scott’s thoughts on crypto and Bitcoin 2:14:16 – Recent life discoveries 2:17:43 – Scott talks about his children’s education 2:20:13 – How they go to church every Sunday 2:21:01 – Goals and focus for the next six months 2:22:08 – Scott talks about the products he sets notifications for 2:25:19 – Connect with Scott 2:25:50 – Outro

TFS#250 - Alison Armstrong on why “Honorable Men Feel Shame” & What Women Don’t Know About Men

Alison Armstrong is a renowned relationship expert, author, and founder of PAX Programs, best known for her work on understanding men, women, and partnership. Since the early 1990s, she has studied human instincts, communication, and gender dynamics, creating popular programs like The Queen’s Code, Making Sense of Men, and The Amazing Development of Men. Her teachings help individuals and couples build healthier, more fulfilling relationships. Connect with Alison Armstrong! https://www.instagram.com/thealisonarmstrong Get Alison's "Thrive Your Life" Webinar for FREE: https://www.alisonarmstrong.com/products/thrive-life.html Click on "FOR ME" At check out, enter promo code AlisonThrive2025 (promo code expires 6/30/2026) Find out more about the Extreme Freedom webinar here: https://www.alisonarmstrong.com/extreme_freedom/ Visit Her Website To Learn More! http://alisonarmstrong.com CHAPTERS: 0:00 – Introduction 1:23 – Meet Alison Armstrong 4:39 – Andy shares how Alison's viral shame clip affected him 5:17 – Alison explains why only honorable people feel shame 6:15 – Alison explains the difference between shame and shaming 8:28 – Andy asks how Alison understands men so deeply 12:29 – Alison talks about healing her relationship with her mother 13:46 – How Alison learned about men through workshops and panels 14:51 – Alison discusses past lives and remembering being a man 16:18 – How she learned to be female by studying men 17:28 – Alison explains betrayal when women share a man’s secrets 20:06 – Andy shares his story about feeling ashamed for asking for the money he gave his mom 22:43 – Alison talks about why mothers worry about their children’s success and future safety 28:06 – How parents unintentionally manipulate through fear 28:49 – Alison shares her own experience asking her mom for payroll money 30:31 – Alison shares what it’s like raising children with her wisdom 35:40 – The “Chief of Safety” role in her household 37:52 – Parenting without controlling or dictating a child’s life 41:00 – The importance of giving kids privacy and their own domain 43:42 – How single men can apply Alison’s teachings 48:03 – Why you must identify what someone needs to contribute to you 50:01 – Why Alison’s son changed how he dated and wouldn’t marry someone without a voice 54:34 – Andy asks if amazing people like Alison struggle to find partners 59:09 – Choosing a partner: evaluating behaviors, values, and alignment 1:00:10 – Why being “whole and free” is the top requirement when choosing a partner 1:01:10 – How her current partner met nearly all her criteria from day one 1:02:47 – Allison explains how honoring her boundaries changed her partner’s health and habits 1:05:14 – What is your purpose in seeking a partner? 1:06:32 – What you need to give vs. what you need to receive 1:07:43 – Why women expect commitment after nine months 1:09:15 – The importance of practicing boundaries everywhere 1:10:48 – Andy asks about Alison’s contagious presence and energy 1:11:51 – How studying men made her fall in love with men 1:12:18 – Alison talks about the potency of will and dwelling in love 1:14:09 – Alison explains how The Queen’s Code began with studying men 1:14:55 – Being different versions of herself while staying authentic 1:18:07 – How men can bring out the best in women 1:23:14 – Andy shares a story about a girl he met at a party 1:25:55 – How projection ruins communication between men and women 1:28:04 – The surprising “strength signals” women look for in men 1:29:45 – Alison shares how to balance chemistry and connection in a relationship 1:30:37 – Connect with Alison 1:30:46 – Outro

TFS#249 - Tal (@talthetraveler) Traveled 40 Countries with $0 at 17yrs Old

Tal Dooreck Aloni is an adventurous world traveler and content creator known for exploring the globe with no money ($0), by exchanging his video and storytelling skills for food and shelter, he documents raw, real-life experiences that highlight connection, community, and the beauty of the unknown. Traveling across 40 countries, Tal documents meaningful encounters, cultural exchange, and lessons on freedom, purpose, and generosity. Connect with Tal! https://www.instagram.com/talthetraveler CHAPTERS: 0:00 – Introduction 1:00 – Meet Tal 2:35 – Traveling the world with $0 at 17 years old: how the challenge started 6:25 – What Tal eats and how he survives day to day 8:51 – Tal’s craziest stories: riding an iron ore train 17:34 – Tal shares how he got back to Morocco to travel with deaf friends 20:17 – Tal shares how he lived with an Amazon Waorani tribe 22:41 – How Tal stores and manages his video footage 22:52 – Does Tal have a home base? 25:03 – What’s next for Tal 25:24 – Tal’s advice for people in their early 20s who want to start their adventure 26:35 – Tal’s backpack setup and minimal gear 27:32 – Tal talks about staying with Bedouins in Jordan 38:10 – Tal’s fast editing workflow for brands 31:08 – How Tal’s parents feel about his travels 32:25 – Tal talks about facing danger, fear, and risky situations during his travels 34:25 – Tal talks about visas, borders, and travel logistics 36:38 – Tal talks about hunger, thirst, and trusting humanity 37:50 – How Tal pitches brands and sponsors for his travels 38:36 – Tal talks about losing footage and managing hard drives 39:11 – Tal shares his experience living with an Amazon tribe 40:35 – Andy talks about how Australian people feel after a shooting incident on a Jewish holiday 41:26 – Tal talks about traveling through Vietnam with no money 43:49 – Tal talks about love, relationships, and finding the right partner 44:34 – Tal’s main focus over the last six months 45:59 – The meaning of life and redefining success 47:20 – Tal’s recent life discoveries 48:55 – Why Tal chose to settle in Israel 53:02 – Does Tal relate to a normal life for other 20-year-olds after all his experiences? 54:41 – Tal’s goal for the next six months 55:41 – Connect with Tal 57:15 - Andy's advice for Tal 1:00:43 - Andy shares why he created the podcast 1:01:24 – Outro