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Queer Religious Trauma Therapy is Political with Liz Rhea

28 min · 26 de jun de 2026
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Kit Morgan and Liz Rhea, two queer, American religious trauma therapists and content creators from a Southern Baptist background met to chat about how their backgrounds influence their work today. Kit and Liz discuss the educational and occupational barriers to being trained in religious trauma informed therapy and how to overcome the barriers. TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - INTRODUCTION TO THE EPISODE’S FOCUS ON RELIGION, TRAUMA, AND SOCIAL JUSTICE IN THERAPY * 01:13 - Liz talks about her background in conservative evangelicalism and how it informs her work * 02:07 - The dichotomy of growing up with religious environments but supportive parents * 03:10 - Insights into Baptist and Presbyterian church cultures and their historical contexts * 04:44 - The socialization process and the influence of church involvement on identity * 05:48 - The impact of college and deconstruction triggered by political and social awareness * 07:26 - The residue of religious trauma and its persistence in adult life * 09:33 - The role of community and connection in religious fulfillment and its loss in deconstruction * 10:15 - How societal conditioning shapes life trajectories, marriage, and personal goals * 11:29 - The influence of personal loss, including grief over a parent, on religious questioning * 12:17 - Grief, death, and religious denial: navigating complex emotions and societal responses * 13:52 - Managing religious trauma’s impact on perceptions of death and loneliness * 14:47 - Embracing authenticity and showing up fully despite online criticism * 15:15 - The importance of values alignment and boundary setting for mental health professionals * 16:39 - Therapist identity, professional conduct, and navigating social and political criticism * 17:00 - The political nature of social work and therapy, with personal anecdotes from electoral experiences * 19:30 - The impact of political ideologies and policies on client care and personal safety * 20:57 - The importance of defining conversion therapy and the risks of ideological harm * 22:12 - The broad scope of sexual orientation and gender identity change efforts and their clinical implications * 23:00 - Gender expression as part of authentic self-expression beyond conservative standards * 24:15 - Expanding the definition of conversion therapy to include various faith-based practices * 25:57 - Practical advice for emerging therapists: seeking mentorship, reflecting on privilege, and activism * 28:41 - Closing thoughts on integrating advocacy and personal values into therapeutic practice RESOURCES: * Liz on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/lizrheatherapy/?hl=en] * Liz on TikTok [https://www.tiktok.com/@lizrheatherapy] * Liz Website [https://www.lizrheatherapy.com/]

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