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395. Structure, Scale, & Liquidity: What’s Driving CRE Right Now (and Mall Ownership 101)

53 min · 8 de may de 2026
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In this week’s episode of the TreppWire Podcast, we explore the market forces shaping commercial real estate, with a focus on structure, control, and optionality in today’s investment landscape. We cover several major headlines, including a potential AvalonBay–Equity Residential combination, Starwood’s pause on redemptions at its S-REIT, and KKR’s launch of a $10 billion AI-driven data center fund led by former AWS CEO Adam Selipsky, unpacking what these moves reveal about strategy and capital allocation. We also break down how mall ownership really works, explaining why regional malls often involve multiple ownership layers across anchors, inline space, and common areas, with structures ranging from ground leases to owned boxes. We preview our latest Trepp CMBS delinquency report, which shows the overall rate ticking down 1 basis point to 7.54% in April. Tune in now. Episode notes: • Economic Update • Lending Environment & Market Themes • AvalonBay–Equity Residential • Starwood Pause on Redemptions • Private Real Estate Fund Investments • KKR's $10 Billion AI Infrastructure Fund • Mall Ownership 101 • North Shore Mall Repositioning Strategy • Programming Notes • Shoutouts Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com. Follow Trepp: X: www.x.com/TreppWire LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/trepp

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