# 8 - Their Own Drum x Pat Healy
Pat Healy is one of my guys. If you've been listening to this show, you probably already know what I mean by that.
Pat grew up in the Chicago suburbs, ended up at Illinois State University, stumbled into a Steppenwolf internship, and just never stopped working. Over the course of three decades he's shared the screen with DiCaprio, Tom Hanks, and Meryl Streep, and worked with Scorsese, Spielberg, PTA, and Werner Herzog. But the stuff that first made me fall in love with his work? Cheap Thrills, Compliance, The Innkeepers- smaller, independent films where he got to do what I think he does best: play a real, fully complicated human being.
We talk about the craft, the grind, therapy, the Chicago work ethic, and what it felt like to be on set with Martin Scorsese. Pat is as thoughtful and genuine as they come. I think you'll feel that by the end of it.