Uncertain Pathfinders

That Uncertain Inner Child (with Raven)

Welcome to the Uncertain Pathfinders (UP) podcast, where we ask listeners, cohosts, and guests to invite Uncertainty and unlock possibility. (中文往下👇） On this episode, cohosts Jeffrey and Miranda welcome Raven into the studio. Raven is an artist and Mindfulness & Life Coach helping people reconnect with their inner voice, navigate emotions, and cultivate presence in daily life through guided meditation and one-on-one coaching. She is the founder of Visiting Now, a brand built on the power of presence. It is a practice of visiting life, inviting you back to the "now." On this episode, Raven shares her own journey with Uncertainty, a journey that was predicted to end over a decade ago. Ever since then, Raven has been "living beyond the script," and given multiple chances in the "video game of life." She talks about discoveries made while traveling, the video game philosophy of life, poor advice given by HR managers, and her connection with music, art, and the beauty of all things. She also reminds us to stay in touch with the inner child that resides in us all. Learn more about Uncertain Pathfinders, Raven, and Visiting Now in the links below: * Uncertain Pathfinders Website [https://uncertainpathfinders.com/] * Uncertain Pathfinders IG [https://www.instagram.com/uncertainpathfinders/] * Visiting Now's IG [https://www.instagram.com/visiting.now/] * Visiting Now's website [https://bio.site/visitingnow?utm_source=ig&utm_medium=social&utm_content=link_in_bio&fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQPOTM2NjE5NzQzMzkyNDU5AAGn3_29dnUqZ5K_TZLYRxqG5Y7iqHTqxpLyrIzziEsMNZocvqXYzIs5-4MMxS4_aem_aEN6ieHVDztkjd4W2CdT0Q] If you would like to connect with UP for 1-1 career or life coaching, workshops related to nonviolent communication (NVC), or applied improv workshops that use Lumina Spark and focus on leveraging Uncertainty, be sure to connect with us on our Pathfinder Connections form [https://forms.gle/LYBf4AyXEA4huso66]. Welcome to join us on our podcast or leave a comment about this episode and share your thoughts: https://open.firstory.me/user/cm81rx1oo07d7012vcyv33asu/comments [https://open.firstory.me/user/cm81rx1oo07d7012vcyv33asu/comments] 歡迎來到 Uncertain Pathfinders（UP）Podcast，在這裡，我們邀請聽眾、共同主持人與來賓一起擁抱不確定，解鎖更多可能性。✨ （中文） 在這一集節目中，共同主持人 Jeffrey 與 Miranda 邀請 Raven 來到錄音室。Raven 是一位藝術家，也是正念與人生教練，透過引導式冥想與一對一教練陪伴，幫助人們重新連結內在聲音、面對情緒，並在日常生活中培養臨在感。 她同時也是「臨在來訪 Visiting Now」的創辦人——一個建立在「臨在力量」上的品牌。 它是一種回到當下、重新拜訪生命的練習。🌿 在這一集裡，Raven 分享了她自己與不確定共處的人生旅程——一段十多年前原本被預測即將結束的生命故事。 從那之後，Raven 開始「活在劇本之外」，像是在「人生電玩」中獲得了好幾次重新開始的機會。🎮 她也聊到了： ✨ 旅行中的各種發現 🎮 將人生視為遊戲的哲學 💼 曾經從 HR 經理那裡收到的糟糕建議 🎵 她與音樂、藝術，以及生活之美的深刻連結 她也提醒我們，不要忘記與每個人心中都存在的那位內在小孩保持連結。 ✨ 歡迎透過下方連結了解更多關於 Uncertain Pathfinders、Raven 與 臨在來訪 Visiting Now 的資訊： * Uncertain Pathfinders Website [https://uncertainpathfinders.com/] * Uncertain Pathfinders IG [https://www.instagram.com/uncertainpathfinders/] * Visiting Now's IG [https://www.instagram.com/visiting.now/] * Visiting Now's website [https://bio.site/visitingnow?utm_source=ig&utm_medium=social&utm_content=link_in_bio&fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQPOTM2NjE5NzQzMzkyNDU5AAGn3_29dnUqZ5K_TZLYRxqG5Y7iqHTqxpLyrIzziEsMNZocvqXYzIs5-4MMxS4_aem_aEN6ieHVDztkjd4W2CdT0Q] 如果你希望與 UP 進一步連結，參與： 🌱 一對一職涯或人生教練 🗣️ 非暴力溝通（NVC）工作坊 🎭 結合 Lumina Spark 與不確定探索的應用即興工作坊 歡迎填寫我們的 Pathfinder Connections form [https://forms.gle/LYBf4AyXEA4huso66]與我們聯繫。 也歡迎你加入我們的 Podcast，或在留言區分享你對這一集的想法與感受。✨ Powered by Firstory Hosting [https://firstory.me/zh]

Uncertain Fish Out of Water: 不確定的離水之魚 （中文為主）

在這一集的 Uncertain Pathfinders Podcast 中，我們展開一場有點不一樣的對話——這次的起點，不是來自職場上的連結，而是來自一段更貼近生活的人際關係。（English Below) 在這集以中文為主的節目中，我們邀請到的來賓是魚魚老師，她曾是主持人 Jeffrey 女兒的幼兒園老師。當我們得知她即將離開教職，踏上一條全新的道路——進入室內設計領域時，也引發了一個問題： 👉 當我們像「離水之魚」一樣跳出舒適圈，去迎接新的挑戰時，那會是什麼樣的感受？ 在這段對話中，Jeffrey、Miranda 和魚魚老師，一起探索轉換跑道所帶來的不確定性、重新成為新手所需要的勇氣，以及在全然陌生的環境中，如何面對那種「格格不入」的感覺。 我們談到她對教學的熱愛、個人價值與家庭期待之間的拉扯，以及那些看似安靜卻深具力量的練習——像是寫日記，如何幫助她在過程中持續與自己保持連結。 在對話的過程中，我們也輕鬆地延伸到「小費包」的哲學，並一起思考：當我們逐漸長大，該如何持續學習、成長，並勇敢地挑戰自己。 這是一段關於轉變、關於自我認同，以及關於那些夾在其中的過渡空間的故事——在這些空間裡，「不確定」始終扮演著重要的角色。 🔗連結： Uncertain Pathfinders website [https://uncertainpathfinders.com/] Uncertain Pathfinders IG [https://www.instagram.com/uncertainpathfinders/] 魚魚老師IG [https://www.instagram.com/fish.1022/] Connect with Uncertain Pathfinders [https://forms.gle/gU8LsfhYfW34c2bt8] In this episode of the Uncertain Pathfinders Podcast, we step into a different kind of conversation—one that begins not from a professional network, but from personal connections. On today's Chinese-language episode, our guest, 魚魚老師, was the previous preschool teacher to the daughter of one of our hosts, Jeffrey. When we learned she would be leaving teaching to pursue a new path in interior design, it sparked questions: 👉 What does it feel like to suddenly jump out our zone of comfort to pursue new challenges, like a fish out of water? In this conversation, Jeffrey, Miranda, and 魚魚老師 explore the Uncertainty of changing careers, the courage it takes to become a beginner again, and what it means to feel like a “fish out of water” in a completely new environment. We talk about her love for teaching, the tension between personal values and family expectations, and the quiet practices—like journaling—that help her stay connected to herself along the way. Along the journey, we even take a playful detour into the philosophy of 小費包, and reflect on what it means to keep learning, growing, and challenging ourselves as we get older. This is a story about transition, identity, and the spaces in between—where Uncertainty plays a major role. 🔗Links: Uncertain Pathfinders website [https://uncertainpathfinders.com/] Uncertain Pathfinders IG [https://www.instagram.com/uncertainpathfinders/] 魚魚老師IG [https://www.instagram.com/fish.1022/] Connect with Uncertain Pathfinders [https://forms.gle/gU8LsfhYfW34c2bt8] Leave a comment and share your thoughts: https://open.firstory.me/user/cm81rx1oo07d7012vcyv33asu/comments [https://open.firstory.me/user/cm81rx1oo07d7012vcyv33asu/comments] Powered by Firstory Hosting [https://firstory.me/zh]

Spotlight on Uncertainty: Joyful Curiosity (Part 2)

Welcome to the Uncertain Pathfinders (UP) Podcast, where we invite listeners, hosts, and guests to embrace uncertainty and unlock new possibilities. (中文往下👇） This episode is Part 2 of our series, “Spotlight on Uncertainty: Joyful Curiosity,” released in the lead-up to Mental Health Awareness Month. As part of this series, we’re highlighting perspectives from mental health professionals on how we can better understand and navigate uncertainty in our lives. In Part 1, we heard from mindfulness practitioners John Ho, Bernice Chai, and Joanna Chen, who shared their experience collaborating on a mindfulness workshop at COSCUP Taiwan 2025, a major open-source technology conference. Together, they guided tech professionals through a wide range of mindfulness practices—demonstrating what can happen when people step into uncertainty and choose to create something together. In this episode, we continue that story with licensed art therapist Stephy Hsu, joining us remotely from Vancouver. Stephy shares her personal journey with uncertainty, her work in art therapy, and her perspective that uncertainty is always present—the key lies in how we choose to respond to it. We also explore her upcoming transition into entrepreneurship as she prepares to launch Soulverse in May 2026. 🎧 Tune in to hear how creativity, mindfulness, and “joyful curiosity” can transform our relationship with uncertainty. If you enjoy this episode, feel free to leave a comment, share your thoughts, or connect with us to learn more about 1-on-1 career and life coaching or team workshops focused on embracing uncertainty, communication, and growth. Links: * Uncertain Pathfinders website [https://uncertainpathfinders.com/] * Uncertain Pathfinders IG [https://www.instagram.com/uncertainpathfinders/] * Service Inquiries with UP [https://forms.gle/kD8RRUsaXyuDGEL59] * Stephy Hsu's Linkedin [https://www.linkedin.com/in/yi-hsuanhsu/] * Stephy's IG [https://www.instagram.com/stephy_art_therapy/] * COSCUP 2025 information [https://coscup.org/2025/sessions/MK8KSX] * HealYou website [https://www.healyou.io/] 歡迎來到 Uncertain Pathfinders（UP）播客，在這裡，我們邀請聽眾、主持人與來賓，一起擁抱不確定，並解鎖更多可能性。 本集為系列節目 「不確定焦點：喜悅的好奇」第二集，於迎接心理健康意識月之際推出。我們透過邀請心理健康領域的專業人士，分享如何理解並與不確定共處。 在第一集中，我們邀請了正念實踐者 John Ho、Bernice Chai 與 Joanna Chen，分享他們在 COSCUP Taiwan 2025（台灣大型開源科技年會）合作帶領正念工作坊的經驗。他們與科技社群一同體驗多元的正念練習，也展現了當人們願意踏入不確定、共同創造時，能夠開展的可能性。 在本集中，我們邀請到 持證藝術治療師 Stephy Hsu，從溫哥華遠端加入對話。Stephy 分享她與不確定的關係、她在藝術治療中的實踐，以及她如何看待「不確定始終存在，而關鍵在於我們如何回應它」。同時，我們也談到她即將於 2026 年 5 月創立 Soulverse 的創業旅程。 🎧 歡迎收聽本集，一起探索創造力、正念與「喜悅的好奇」如何轉化我們與不確定的關係。 如果你喜歡這一集，歡迎留言分享你的想法，或與我們聯繫，了解更多關於 一對一職涯與人生教練，以及協助團隊學習如何擁抱不確定、提升溝通與促進成長的工作坊。 🌿 Leave a comment and share your thoughts: Powered by Firstory Hosting [https://firstory.me/zh]

Spotlight on Uncertainty: Joyful Curiosity (Part 1)

Spotlight on Uncertainty: Joyful Curiosity (Part 1) (中文往下👇） Welcome to the Uncertain Pathfinders (UP) podcast, where we ask listeners, guests, and the hosts to invite Uncertainty and unlock possibility. This episode is breaking new ground for a number of reasons : * The first episode where the host and UP founder, Jeffrey, records solo without a co-host * We break the episode up into two parts, where we invite a guest from abroad to record remotely (licenced Art Therapist, Stephy Hsu (Yi-Hsuan) * We go with an entirely different structure On part one of this two-part episode, we invite three professionals from the mental health industry to join us in the studio. They are mindfulness practitioner, John Ho, mindfulness facilitator and MBSR instructor, Joanna Chen, and founder of New Life and Certified Health and Wellness Consultant, Bernice Chai. Rather than going with our usual format, the three of them join Jeffrey in the studio to help shine a spotlight on a story that applies a successful case-study of inviting Uncertainty to produce magical moments and valuable professional contributions.  John Ho, who resides in Portland, Oregon, took a chance and submitted a mindful session proposal for the COSCUP Taiwan 2025 tech conference.  And to his surprise, it was accepted by the organizer team and furthermore, he was given a 3 hour time slot. After earning that honor, John made the bold decision to reach out to the three other guests on today’s episode (as well as Stephy and Jessie Chang, founder of HealYou, and another previous guest on the UP podcast). At the time, John had briefly met Jessie in Taiwan over coffee chats and only knew the others from their online presence. He made the uncharacteristic choice to connect with all of them, and invited Uncertainty by asking them if they would like to co-lead a 3 hour session at the tech conference. This episode highlights what happens when 5 strangers invited Uncertainty and said yes to unlocking possibilities of working together on a specific project. This episode is the first time they have come back together since that experience. They share what was going through their mind throughout the experience, and how the overall process has changed their views on Uncertainty in a positive note. Below are more links related to the episode: * www.uncertainpathinders.com [http://www.uncertainpathinders.com] * https://www.instagram.com/uncertainpathfinders/ [https://www.instagram.com/uncertainpathfinders/] * John Ho’s Linkedin:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnho/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnho/] * Bernice Chai’s Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bernicechaiwellness/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/bernicechaiwellness/] * Joanna Chen’s Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joannachen-yunchih/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/joannachen-yunchih/] * Stephy Hsu’s Linkdedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yi-hsuanhsu/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/yi-hsuanhsu/] * Jessie Chang’s Linkedin:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/taofang-chang/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/taofang-chang/] * HealYou: https://www.healyou.io/ [https://www.healyou.io/] Thanks again for listening. Please be sure to leave any comments about the episode, and we look forward to part 2 with Stephy as we lead up to Mental Health Awareness month in May. If you are interested in connecting with UP for 1-1 career or life coaching, or if your organization is interested in workshops focusing on inviting Uncertainty, embracing Failure, and constructive conflict through applied improv and nonviolent communication (NVC), please contact us through our pathfinders connection form: (https://forms.gle/J8qLqKsLferEZk8f8 [https://forms.gle/J8qLqKsLferEZk8f8] ) or e-mail at uncertainpathfinders@gmail.com [uncertainpathfinders@gmail.com] . Let’s continue to Invite Uncertainty and unlock possibility! 🌿 不確定焦點：喜悅的好奇心（上） 歡迎來到 Uncertain Pathfinders（UP）播客，在這裡，我們邀請聽眾、來賓與主持人，一起邀請「不確定」，並解鎖更多可能性。 這一集對我們來說具有多重突破的意義： * 這是主持人暨 UP 創辦人 Jeffrey 首次單獨錄製，沒有共同主持人 * 本集分為上下兩部分，並邀請來自海外的來賓遠端錄音（持證藝術治療師 Stephy Hsu（Yi-Hsuan）） * 我們採用了全新的節目結構 在這個兩集系列的上集，我們邀請了三位來自心理健康領域的專業人士來到錄音室。他們分別是： 正念練習者 John Ho、正念引導師暨 MBSR 講師 Joanna Chen，以及 New Life 創辦人暨認證健康與健康顧問 Bernice Chai。 不同於以往的節目形式，這一集三位來賓與 Jeffrey 一同聚焦在一個故事上——一個透過「邀請不確定」而創造出奇妙時刻與專業價值的成功案例。 居住在美國俄勒岡州波特蘭的 John Ho，曾大膽嘗試，向 COSCUP Taiwan 2025 科技大會 提交一場以正念為主題的提案。令他驚喜的是，該提案不僅被主辦單位採納，還獲得了一個長達三小時的時段。 在獲得這個機會之後，John 做出了一個大膽的決定——他主動聯繫本集的三位來賓（以及 Stephy 和 HealYou 創辦人、曾上過 UP 播客的 Jessie Chang）。當時，John 只是在台灣與 Jessie 有過簡單的咖啡交流，而對其他人則僅止於網路上的認識。 他選擇跨出這一步，主動建立連結，並邀請「不確定」——詢問他們是否願意共同帶領這場三小時的工作坊。本集呈現了當五位原本幾乎互不相識的人，選擇邀請不確定並說「是」，共同投入一個具體合作時，會發生什麼樣的故事。這也是他們在那次經驗之後，首次再次聚在一起。他們分享了整個過程中的心境變化，以及這段經歷如何正向地改變了他們對「不確定」的看法。 🔗 相關連結 * 官方網站：www.uncertainpathinders.com [http://www.uncertainpathinders.com] * Instagram：https://www.instagram.com/uncertainpathfinders/ [https://www.instagram.com/uncertainpathfinders/] * John Ho 的 LinkedIn：https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnho/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnho/] * Bernice Chai 的 LinkedIn：https://www.linkedin.com/in/bernicechaiwellness/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/bernicechaiwellness/] * Joanna Chen 的 LinkedIn：https://www.linkedin.com/in/joannachen-yunchih/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/joannachen-yunchih/] * Stephy Hsu 的 LinkedIn：https://www.linkedin.com/in/yi-hsuanhsu/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/yi-hsuanhsu/] * Jessie Chang 的 LinkedIn：https://www.linkedin.com/in/taofang-chang/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/taofang-chang/] * HealYou：https://www.healyou.io/ [https://www.healyou.io/] 再次感謝你的收聽！ 歡迎留言分享你對本集的想法，我們也期待在下一集（下集）與 Stephy 一起，迎接五月的心理健康意識月。 如果你有興趣與 UP 進行 1 對 1 的職涯或人生教練合作， 或你的組織有興趣舉辦以「邀請不確定」、「擁抱失敗」，以及透過應用即興與非暴力溝通（NVC）來促進建設性衝突的工作坊， 歡迎透過我們的 Pathfinder 聯繫表單與我們聯絡： 👉 https://forms.gle/J8qLqKsLferEZk8f8 [https://forms.gle/J8qLqKsLferEZk8f8]或來信：uncertainpathfinders@gmail.com [或來信：uncertainpathfinders@gmail.com] 讓我們一起持續邀請不確定，並解鎖更多可能性！ 🌿 Leave a comment and share your thoughts: Powered by Firstory Hosting [https://firstory.me/zh]

Connecting the Dots with Uncertainty

Welcome to the Uncertain Pathfinders (UP) Podcast, where we invite guests, co-hosts, and listeners to embrace uncertainty and unlock new possibilities in life and work. In this episode, co-hosts Jeffrey and J are joined by Hellena Jang—an improv coach, improviser, and facilitator from Seoul, South Korea, and founder of the Korean improv group Imfrog. (中文往下👇） Together, they explore Uncertainty through the lens of improvisation, cultural exchange, and personal growth. The conversation dives into questions many of us face: 💡How do we deal with the fear of uncertainty? 💡How do we discover what truly makes us happy? 💡And how do we balance careful planning with the courage to embrace the unknown? Drawing from Hellena’s experiences in improv and international collaboration, the discussion explores how improvisation can help us navigate uncertainty with curiosity, creativity, and resilience. Topics in this episode include: 🎭 Improv as a tool for navigating uncertainty 🌏 Cultural perspectives on uncertainty in Korea and beyond ✨ Connecting the dots that form the “messy and magical” lines of life 📉 Plateauing in our learning journeys and how to move forward 💡 Finding our passions and staying relevant in changing environments 👕 The unexpected story behind Kodak apparel 📖 The role of storytelling and connection in improv This conversation is for anyone exploring creativity, career direction, personal growth, or the courage to step into the unknown. 🔗 Links related to this episode: * Uncertain Pathfinders Website [https://uncertainpathfinders.com/] * Uncertain Pathfinders IG [https://www.instagram.com/uncertainpathfinders/] * Hellena' IG [https://www.instagram.com/hellena.improv/] * Imfrog's IG [https://www.instagram.com/imfrog.korea/] * Hellena's Linkedin [https://www.linkedin.com/in/hellena-jang-b647383a/] 🙏 Thank you for listening to the Uncertain Pathfinders Podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a comment or share your thoughts.If you have a story about uncertainty, creativity, or life transitions, we’d love to hear from you—and you may even join us on a future episode. If you’re interested in 1-on-1 career or life coaching, or workshops on applied improv, team collaboration, or Nonviolent Communication (NVC), please connect with us through the Pathfinder Connections Form (合作探索表 [https://forms.gle/mn5Wunw8TbFg7xux6]). Let’s continue to Invite Uncertainty and Unlock Possibility. 歡迎來到 Uncertain Pathfinders (UP) Podcast。在這個節目中，我們邀請來賓、主持人以及聽眾，一起 邀請不確定性（Uncertainty），解鎖更多可能性（Unlock Possibility）。 在這一集節目中，主持人 Jeffrey 和 J 邀請來自 韓國首爾的即興教練、即興演員與引導者 Hellena Jang，同時也是韓國即興團體 Imfrog 的創辦人，一起從 即興劇場、文化交流與個人成長 的角度探討「不確定性」。 節目中，我們一起思考一些許多人都會面對的問題： 💡我們如何面對 不確定帶來的恐懼？ 💡如何找到 真正讓自己快樂與投入的事情？ 💡又如何在 規劃人生與擁抱未知之間取得平衡？ 透過 Hellena 在即興表演與跨文化合作中的經驗，我們一起探討 即興如何幫助我們以好奇心、創造力與韌性面對不確定的世界。 本集討論的主題包括： 🎭 即興如何幫助我們面對不確定性 🌏 韓國與不同文化對「不確定」的觀點 ✨ 連結人生中那些「混亂卻又神奇的點與線」 📉 學習旅程中的停滯與突破 💡 找到真正讓自己熱愛的事情並保持成長 👕 Kodak 服飾背後意想不到的故事 📖 即興中的故事敘事與人際連結 這一集特別適合對 創意、個人成長、職涯探索，以及如何勇敢面對未知 感興趣的朋友。 🔗 本集相關連結： * Uncertain Pathfinders Website [https://uncertainpathfinders.com/] * Uncertain Pathfinders IG [https://www.instagram.com/uncertainpathfinders/] * Hellena's IG [https://www.instagram.com/hellena.improv/] * Imfrog's IG [https://www.instagram.com/imfrog.korea/] * Hellena's Linkedin [https://www.linkedin.com/in/hellena-jang-b647383a/] 🙏 感謝收聽 Uncertain Pathfinders Podcast。 如果你喜歡這一集的內容，歡迎在留言區分享你的想法與回饋。如果你也有關於 不確定性、創意或人生轉折的故事 想分享，也歡迎與我們聯繫，也許你會成為未來節目的來賓。如果你對 一對一職涯或人生教練，或是 應用即興（Applied Improv）、團隊合作、非暴力溝通（NVC）工作坊 感興趣，歡迎透過 Pathfinder Connections 合作探索表 [https://forms.gle/mn5Wunw8TbFg7xux6] 與我們聯繫。讓我們一起繼續擁抱不確定，解鎖新可能！ Leave a comment and share your thoughts: Powered by Firstory Hosting [https://firstory.me/zh]