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The Co-Founder of Hims & Hers Is Back — And She's Reinventing Coffee Syrup | Interview with POCA Founders + CPG News

47 min · 7 de abr de 2026
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She co-founded Hims & Hers in 2017 and helped build it into a $4 billion telehealth company. Now Hilary Coles is back — and she's coming for your morning coffee. This week on Unpackaged Goods, I sit down with Hilary Coles and Emily Boschwitz, the co-founders of POCA — portable, zero-sugar coffee and matcha syrups that are reinventing how we flavor our drinks. Hilary co-founded Hims & Hers and built out their physical products and brand. Emily was their first marketing hire. Together, they watched wellness overtake big pharma by 4x over the last decade and decided the next frontier was the one vice we're all still allowed to have: coffee. We talk about the Hims & Hers origin story and what they learned building a company that proved lowercase-h healthcare was real. Why coffee and matcha are the last sacred rituals in a world optimized to death. How they formulated zero-sugar syrups using rare sugars like monk fruit and allulose that actually dissolve in iced drinks — because 75% of Starbucks orders are iced and traditional syrup sinks to the bottom. The pistachio flavor that's giving people an emotional reaction. Building a second company as moms with young kids. Why the GLP-1 movement is creating unexpected demand for flavor in protein-heavy diets. And why they worked with the Glossier design team to make POCA feel like a beauty moment, not a food product. Plus the weekly CPG news breakdown: → Unilever x McCormick is official — $20B revenue, $60B combined value, $15.7B cash payment → KDP closes $18B JDE Peet's and splits into Beverage Co. and Global Coffee Co. → Chomps approaching $900M in revenue — 36% growth at massive scale → IM8 hits $100M ARR in 11 months — Beckham, Giannis on the cap table → Mars Men hits $100M in 18 months — $27.5M Series A from L Catterton → Create closes $20M — Mike Repole and Unilever Ventures invest → The Casamigos Alumni Effect — former CEO launches Por Qué No canned cocktails → Khloud Protein Chips debuting exclusively at Target → Cadence, Clean Simple Eats, and Boka all launching at 2,000+ Walmart doors → Cleanlogic at 6,000+ CVS stores → Something Sweet nationwide at Whole Foods → Bloom Sparkling Energy launching in Canada via KDP The mega deals are closing. The rockets are launching. And the co-founder of one of the most important consumer health companies of the last decade just told you where she thinks the next opportunity lives — in the cup you're holding right now. Subscribe to The Deeter Digest for the full weekly breakdown: https://deetseatsnyc.substack.com/p/the-deeter-digest-80e Follow @deetseatsnyc on Instagram & TikTok Learn more about Pickle Advisors: pickleadvisors.com Check out POCA: https://pickpoca.com/?srsltid=AfmBOooZl8fro92SgJTKY0ZLhh7Ah6p9CW8LMjQmxAHo1uVZofiKAGil #CPG #ConsumerGoods #POCA #HimsAndHers #Coffee #Matcha #Unilever #McCormick #Chomps #IM8 #MarsMen #LCatterton #Create #UnpackagedGoods #DeeterDigest #Entrepreneurship #VentureCapital #FunctionalBeverages #WomenFounders

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She co-founded Hims & Hers in 2017 and helped build it into a $4 billion telehealth company. Now Hilary Coles is back — and she's coming for your morning coffee. This week on Unpackaged Goods, I sit down with Hilary Coles and Emily Boschwitz, the co-founders of POCA — portable, zero-sugar coffee and matcha syrups that are reinventing how we flavor our drinks. Hilary co-founded Hims & Hers and built out their physical products and brand. Emily was their first marketing hire. Together, they watched wellness overtake big pharma by 4x over the last decade and decided the next frontier was the one vice we're all still allowed to have: coffee. We talk about the Hims & Hers origin story and what they learned building a company that proved lowercase-h healthcare was real. Why coffee and matcha are the last sacred rituals in a world optimized to death. How they formulated zero-sugar syrups using rare sugars like monk fruit and allulose that actually dissolve in iced drinks — because 75% of Starbucks orders are iced and traditional syrup sinks to the bottom. The pistachio flavor that's giving people an emotional reaction. Building a second company as moms with young kids. Why the GLP-1 movement is creating unexpected demand for flavor in protein-heavy diets. And why they worked with the Glossier design team to make POCA feel like a beauty moment, not a food product. Plus the weekly CPG news breakdown: → Unilever x McCormick is official — $20B revenue, $60B combined value, $15.7B cash payment → KDP closes $18B JDE Peet's and splits into Beverage Co. and Global Coffee Co. → Chomps approaching $900M in revenue — 36% growth at massive scale → IM8 hits $100M ARR in 11 months — Beckham, Giannis on the cap table → Mars Men hits $100M in 18 months — $27.5M Series A from L Catterton → Create closes $20M — Mike Repole and Unilever Ventures invest → The Casamigos Alumni Effect — former CEO launches Por Qué No canned cocktails → Khloud Protein Chips debuting exclusively at Target → Cadence, Clean Simple Eats, and Boka all launching at 2,000+ Walmart doors → Cleanlogic at 6,000+ CVS stores → Something Sweet nationwide at Whole Foods → Bloom Sparkling Energy launching in Canada via KDP The mega deals are closing. The rockets are launching. And the co-founder of one of the most important consumer health companies of the last decade just told you where she thinks the next opportunity lives — in the cup you're holding right now. Subscribe to The Deeter Digest for the full weekly breakdown: https://deetseatsnyc.substack.com/p/the-deeter-digest-80e Follow @deetseatsnyc on Instagram & TikTok Learn more about Pickle Advisors: pickleadvisors.com Check out POCA: https://pickpoca.com/?srsltid=AfmBOooZl8fro92SgJTKY0ZLhh7Ah6p9CW8LMjQmxAHo1uVZofiKAGil #CPG #ConsumerGoods #POCA #HimsAndHers #Coffee #Matcha #Unilever #McCormick #Chomps #IM8 #MarsMen #LCatterton #Create #UnpackagedGoods #DeeterDigest #Entrepreneurship #VentureCapital #FunctionalBeverages #WomenFounders

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