Women of a Certain Stage
In this episode, Lauren sits down with Sarah — a former gardener turned academic turned menopause coach — for an honest and inspiring conversation about burnout, brain fog, and finding your way through menopause while doing a PhD. Together, they explore how nature and the outdoors can be a powerful tool for managing menopause symptoms, and why giving women agency — through workplace menopause plans and access to outdoor spaces — can be truly transformative. Sarah shares her deeply personal journey through perimenopause, loss, and exhaustion, and how all of it ultimately led her to train as a menopause coach with Women of a Certain Stage. They also dig into the real difference between academic study and coach training, why authenticity matters when building your coaching practice, and how small, considered steps — not big dramatic leaps — are often the most powerful way forward. And yes — there's a moment early on involving an ironing board and some kitchen utensils that perfectly captures the spirit of getting the work done, whatever it takes. 00:00 Introduction & Behind-the-Scenes Chaos 01:12 Sarah's Background: From Gardener to PhD 02:17 Experiencing Menopause During Academic Study 03:25 The Woman Who Worked Outside — and Why It Stuck 04:30 Discovering Menopause Coaching as a Career 05:16 Why Sarah Chose Women of a Certain Stage 06:38 Taking Time to Be Ready: No Pressure, No Rush 07:57 The Decision-Making Journey 08:52 Burnout, Grief & Mental Bandwidth 10:00 Comparing PhD Study with the Menopause Coach Diploma 13:08 Advice for Anyone Sitting on the Fence 15:04 Flexibility, Autonomy & Reaching More People 15:28 What's Next: Website, LinkedIn & Getting Out There 16:19 Showing Up Authentically in Your Practice 17:28 Johari's Window & Self-Awareness in Coaching 18:27 Brain Fog, the Woods & Talking to Yourself Like a Coach 19:49 Working with Businesses: Outdoor Menopause Plans & Legislation 20:41 The Science Behind Nature & Menopause Meet your host Lauren Chiren Lauren Chiren is a leading voice in menopause awareness and workplace inclusion, dedicated to ensuring no one navigates menopause alone. As the Founder and CEO of Women of a Certain Stage, she works with organisations worldwide to create menopause-savvy and supportive environments. With a background in psychology, sports therapy, and nutrition, and an extensive suite of coaching certifications, Lauren is on a mission to train 20,000 Menopause Coaches and Champions, equipping them with the tools to support individuals and workplaces through this transformative life stage. Join her as she breaks the silence, challenges the stigma, and empowers people to thrive at midlife and beyond. About Women of a Certain Stage We are committed to transforming the menopause experience — both for individuals and the organisations that support them. Our mission is to empower people through education, advocacy, and expert-led training, ensuring menopause is no longer a barrier to confidence, health, or career success. Join us and our global network of professionals dedicated to breaking the stigma, improving workplace culture, and ensuring no one navigates menopause alone. Find out more here: https://www.womenofacertainstage.com/https://www.womenofacertainstage.com/ [https://www.womenofacertainstage.com/] Connect with Lauren LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenchiren/https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenchiren/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenchiren/] Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/themenopausecoach/https://www.instagram.com/themenopausecoach/ [https://www.instagram.com/themenopausecoach/] Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WomenOfACertainStagehttps://www.facebook.com/WomenOfACertainStage [https://www.facebook.com/WomenOfACertainStage] YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@womenofacertainstagehttps://www.youtube.com/@womenofacertainstage [https://www.youtube.com/@womenofacertainstage] Twitter/X: https://x.com/LaurenChirenhttps://x.com/LaurenChiren [https://x.com/LaurenChiren]
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